Rising anti-refugee attacks ‘disgrace’ for Germany - Interior minister says

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Chancellor Merkel was elected democratically. She has the right to make the choice.

Ofcourse, she could also go to war with Europe because she's chosen democratically right? What logic you have. Oh and btw, no one here takes a brainwashed SJW in it's worst form serious. When you are in Canada and think you know what's happening in Europe, please come over here. Blend in with the refugees and tell me what's happening. Oh and I can give you some video's on how bad it actually is. And it's not refugees. It's foreigners. So you can't say they haven't assimilated to our culture blahblah. No, they are 3rd and 4rd generation and still are A HUGE PROBLEM to our society. Criminality, drugs, attacking people and police officers, and taking children ages below 10 with them. These children look up to them and this makes it appeal that this doesn't end in a year or 20, the next generation is already standing up and it seems it's only getting worse the more there are coming.

So please, I want to see how you thrive in such neighbourhoods, which are not ghetto's like you see in at your place. It's civilized, they can go to school, they can get anything they want (mostly from welfare) yet they still don't do it. The only difference is that they're foreigners and that's a fact. I know you try to call people racists when you hear facts but well that's what it is. Atleast I know I'm not a racist, I can clearly see what's happening and don't claim to know what's happening in Canada. Fool.

[Reklia]

Next thing you know they'll demand a Gerexit. Hmm.. doesn't have a nice ring to it does it?

[Ryme]

It wasn't obvious.

Really? Because people were calling it the moment this was announced; huge numbers of people are stupid and prone to fear. The governments handling of immigration coupled with the cover-ups by police and propaganda for anything remotely angling toward the right only sped the processes up.

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Really? Because people were calling it the moment this was announced, people are stupid and prone to fear. The governments handling of immigration coupled with the cover-ups by police and propaganda for anything remotely angling toward the right only sped the processes up.

Yeah, it was obvious that it was a self fulfilling prophecy. When I scream "people will rise up" and then I rise up and smash things, ok that's obvious. Lesson learned from that? Investigate the people that yell this bullshit. Because the normal people actually don't give much of a fuck. It's only the extreme right wing hopping on the train to cause mayhem. As is always the case. Fucking pricks.

The important bit to note, and something that people ignore here: The general population isn't moving a finger in either direction. They're quite apathetic. So no, it wasn't obvious that "Germany will rise up". But to be fair, if we hadn't taken the refugees, we'd have roughly the same number of crimes of that nature. Only the news wouldn't report about them, because we've always had that kind of nazi violence.

So... you wanted to talk about clashing ideologies or something?

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Sounds an awful lot like excusing violence against minorities there.

refugees are not a 'minority'.

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refugees are not a 'minority'.

lol wut? How are they not a minority? A minority of what?

[Ulmita]

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/09...aiziere-Berlin



In a time when so many are losing faith in politicians, it's great to see that there are some in Germany making a stand for what is right.

No matter who you are, you must agree that these attacks must stop. It's time to look at more severe punishment of hate crimes before it gets out of hand!!

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I do believe that refugees should be helped but then i can see where the skeptics are coming from too.
If you want to be 100% fair and follow democratic route, you need to hold a referendum and let the majority decide just like what hungary will be doing in a few days.

[Torais]

Who would've guessed stuff like this happens when a government takes life changing decisions without asking the inhabitants of said country their opinion.

Indeed. The German government has been attempting to rule its country and a good part of the EU like a feudal king pushing its own twisted agenda against the will of the majority of its people.

I am honestly surprised there has not been more backlash sooner.

[Trassk]

The only disgrace is that Merkel invited people from an incompatible culture.. what did she think was going to happen? Obviously people are fed up with it, and they are lucky there is not a full scale revolt and overthrow of the government and forced mass deportation. That is what should happen. Those millions are still living on welfare.

Merkel needs to be strung out for the crows to peck at her, her delusions has caused this and yet she hides away in her ivory tower away from the mayhem she's caused.

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Indeed. The German government has been attempting to rule its country and a good part of the EU like a feudal king pushing its own twisted agenda against the will of the majority of its people.

I am honestly surprised there has not been more backlash sooner.

Merkel needs to be strung out for the crows to peck at her, her delusions has caused this and yet she hides away in her ivory tower away from the mayhem she's caused.

Things like these are what make me take this forum less and less serious. Just pointing out that you lot are devolving into the realm where only Youtube commenters feel comfortable.

[Ravenblade]

Really? Because people were calling it the moment this was announced; huge numbers of people are stupid and prone to fear. The governments handling of immigration coupled with the cover-ups by police and propaganda for anything remotely angling toward the right only sped the processes up.

That it would happen in the some Eastern parts of Germany was crystal-clear to me. I am not going to be delusional about my peers here. The federal government was never honest or simply too naive about these regions assuming that some form of trickle-down economy and an aging generation being replaced by a more optimistic open one would eventually "heal" these regions. But they were wrong, over the years not only they become more organized but also more established, the young generation - if it stayed and didn't wander off to the West - pretty much continues to harbour the same sentiments as the old ones did sans the GDR nostalgia (also called Ostalgia here). It's poor handling of immigration indeed - one that dates back to October 3rd 1990.

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That it would happen in the some Eastern parts of Germany was crystal-clear to me. I am not going to be delusional about my peers here. The federal government was never honest or simply too naive about these regions assuming that some form of trickle-down economy and an aging generation being replaced by a more optimistic open one would eventually "heal" these regions. But they were wrong, over the years not only they become more organized but also more established, the young generation - if it stayed and didn't wander off to the West - pretty much continues to harbour the same sentiments as the old ones did sans the GDR nostalgia (also called Ostalgia here). It's poor handling of immigration indeed - one that dates back to October 3rd 1990.

Funny, everyone coming to my area from those regions seems to be pretty chill. I guess if every cool person leaves the east, that only leaves nazis at some point... sad state.

I still stand behind the reunification, don't smudge October 3rd. It's a great date. And you should be thankful for it, because it gives you a long weekend! Btw, if anyone else wants to do business with Germany, don't count on us picking up the phone on monday. Haha!

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Jesus F. Christ... What does a nation have to do to show you racism is bad? If killing 6 million people won't do it, I don't know what will. Take Germany back? Seriously? The last time we did that, everyone else shat in their pants...

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Of course you don't realise that the "socialism" part is the redundant bit. The nationalism part is the dangerous bit. It's the evil twin brother of patriotism. You know, the one that's a pathological killer. And people who talk about "nationalism" like you do? They usually are nazis... I've yet to be proven wrong. Show me a left-nationalist and I'll admit defeat.

I won't even go into your weird sense of what a "traitor" is. She's the head of the state, quite the opposite of a traitor, but go ahead... tell me how Merkel got into power almost 10 years ago to betray the country now. It'll be an amusing read if nothing else...

Btw, it's Nuremberg if you prefer the English spelling.

A left nationalist was the communist regime in Romania before the 90s.
No one likes when some freedoms are taken away but that man was trully a nationalist, had the interest of the nation in mind and heart and built Romania's industry and agriculture. Same industry and agriculture that had to be destroyed before we entered EU.

I always appreciate a nationalist, even if he doesnt see things like i do. Those freedoms should have been granted by the communist regime and a slow transition to democracy.

A traitor is someone who acts against national interests with ill intent regardless of whom voted him in. Why is it so hard to understand?
If i am charismatic and win elections, then suddently start to act and destroy by lets say disabling the army and firing all soldiers (just an example) right before a war would start, arent i a traitor?

Do you guys have a sense of logic? It doesnt matter how she got voted in, if suddently she turns cloak shes is a traitor. And thats what happened.



You can call me w/e you want. Im a nationalist and for my nation im capable of anything.

And id say that nationalism is far from being evil, its one of the most noble movements you can find. To fight for a greater goal that doesnt help you dirrectly at all with no gain for yourself, but a gain for the greater good of your kin. I find that noble.

A true nationalist that doesnt fake it will never be corrupt or steal, or betray national interests in favor of other states, and you know that.

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First off, no, refugees do not get a free pass. Where did you get that from? It is definitely not true and never has been.

Cologne?
The authorities go out of their fucking way not to do anything to anyone who can scream racist.
There are Nazi demonstrators walking past police in Germany not getting arrested - Why?
Because they are brown.
There is fucking footage of it.

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lol wut? How are they not a minority? A minority of what?

A minority is (for this purpose) a sub-national group.
African Americans are one, Jews are one in most places, but 'refugees' are not one.
both because they are not a cohesive group, and because they have not been subsumed into the nation yet.

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That it would happen in the some Eastern parts of Germany was crystal-clear to me. I am not going to be delusional about my peers here. The federal government was never honest or simply too naive about these regions assuming that some form of trickle-down economy and an aging generation being replaced by a more optimistic open one would eventually "heal" these regions. But they were wrong, over the years not only they become more organized but also more established, the young generation - if it stayed and didn't wander off to the West - pretty much continues to harbour the same sentiments as the old ones did sans the GDR nostalgia (also called Ostalgia here). It's poor handling of immigration indeed - one that dates back to October 3rd 1990.

East Germans don't have western guilt.
They don't even have 'nazi' guilt - the DDR was their punishment.

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Funny, everyone coming to my area from those regions seems to be pretty chill. I guess if every cool person leaves the east, that only leaves nazis at some point... sad state.

I still stand behind the reunification, don't smudge October 3rd. It's a great date. And you should be thankful for it, because it gives you a long weekend! Btw, if anyone else wants to do business with Germany, don't count on us picking up the phone on monday. Haha!

its not that they are nazis, its that when a politician says 'we can do this' they wonder how and why.

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Cologne?
The authorities go out of their fucking way not to do anything to anyone who can scream racist.
There are Nazi demonstrators walking past police in Germany not getting arrested - Why?
Because they are brown.
There is fucking footage of it.

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A minority is (for this purpose) a sub-national group.
African Americans are one, Jews are one in most places, but 'refugees' are not one.
both because they are not a cohesive group, and because they have not been subsumed into the nation yet.

The authorities in Cologne were working the case like they would with any other case. They took a while longer, because the nature of this crime scene made it difficult to investigate. That was incidentally also the reason why reports were slow initially. "Going out of their way to not do anything to anyone who can scream racist" usually looks different. The footage you're inevitably going to show will display nothing but a dark area full of people with a lot of confusion going on and perhaps the interviews calling for a calm and professional response instead of blind actionism arresting thousands of refugees just to make an example...

Re: Minority: That explanation makes a lot more sense than I initially expected. Thanks!

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its not that they are nazis, its that when a politician says 'we can do this' they wonder how and why.

Yeah, perhaps it's time to put the communist strategy of expecting the Gouvernment to hold your hands from the cradle to the grave to rest and start acting like responsible citizens. Time the east grows up and stops bitching. The only reason the east has these problems is because the people don't fix them. We paid them billions of Euros out of our paychecks for 26 years... they have no reason to bitch like that.

Naturally, when they're unemployed alcoholic nazi fucks, their job perspectives kinda suck. Doesn't help that they're dumb as bricks and have no skills worth paying them for except throwing shit.

[lonely zergling]

The authorities in Cologne were working the case like they would with any other case. They took a while longer, because the nature of this crime scene made it difficult to investigate. That was incidentally also the reason why reports were slow initially. "Going out of their way to not do anything to anyone who can scream racist" usually looks different. The footage you're inevitably going to show will display nothing but a dark area full of people with a lot of confusion going on and perhaps the interviews calling for a calm and professional response instead of blind actionism arresting thousands of refugees just to make an example...

Re: Minority: That explanation makes a lot more sense than I initially expected. Thanks!

Do the authorities in other cases scratch the word "rape" too because its apparently to dangerous to tell the truth about migrant/refugee crime?

[Flarelaine]

A left nationalist was the communist regime in Romania before the 90s.
No one likes when some freedoms are taken away but that man was trully a nationalist, had the interest of the nation in mind and heart and built Romania's industry and agriculture. Same industry and agriculture that had to be destroyed before we entered EU.

I always appreciate a nationalist, even if he doesnt see things like i do. Those freedoms should have been granted by the communist regime and a slow transition to democracy.

Ceaucesu also ruthlessly oppressed Hungarians, Europe's largest minority group (~2M people) at the time. If he is your hero, I can understand your stance on the forums. Including your avatar and frequent forum breaks.

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Attacking people is never good. No matter who does it.
But authorities need to be more active now, because crime is rising in european countries and they need to take care of that before it gets out of hand. Both sides are guilty

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Do the authorities in other cases scratch the word "rape" too because its apparently to dangerous to tell the truth about migrant/refugee crime?

No, they scratch it when there's a different criminal law called "sexual assault" that's more appropriate for the crime that actually happened. See, the police doesn't have the luxury of the media to just use whatever word that sells most copies, they have to actually stick to the wording in the criminal code. It's a bit boring sometimes, I admit, but that's how it is.

[lonely zergling]

No, they scratch it when there's a different criminal law called "sexual assault" that's more appropriate for the crime that actually happened. See, the police doesn't have the luxury of the media to just use whatever work sells most copies, they have to actually stick to the wording in the criminal code. It's a bit boring sometimes, I admit, but that's how it is.

There was atleast 1 confirmed rape and leaked information says that they got an call that they should scratch the rape from press releases because its too much dynamite.