Preferred Healer for Mythic +?

[lonely zergling]

Tier1: Mw, druid.
Tier2: pally, shamy.
Tier5: holypriest.
Tier6: disc.

[Gemini Soul]

With this weeks affix, Rdruid is hands down the best.

[Jazzhands]

As a DH tank, I've had the most success with either a paladin or druid healer, but shaman also feels rather strong.

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Tier1: Mw, druid.
Tier2: pally, shamy.
Tier5: holypriest.
Tier6: disc.

I've been going back and forth between shaman and monk for my healer class, I've seen very few MW around, what makes them so strong in M+? Deep healing and healing tide seem OP compared to what I've seen from monks, but admittedly I'm not too informed on MW right now lol

[chase_the_mofo]

First you look for blood death knight, after that doesn't matter what healer
Shaman is nice for bloodlust

[Tiphess]

rdruid>rsham=hpriest>rsham>disc=mw

I smell someone basing himself on that crappy method video

putting mw under disc when they've the biggest output, rofl

[CParker1987]

rdruid>rsham=hpriest>rsham>disc=mw

I love how people always put MW last at everything. Considering I constantly beat my guilds RShammy and HPally in heals. about 50% of the time I beat our RDruid. Now our HPriest... shes a beast. There aint no beating her

[Deifi]

We use a resto druid.

DHT +10 is our highest

Would of loved a Holy Pally on Xavius though, Xavius tyrannical is brutal.

[Ealyssa]

Tier1: Mw, druid.
Tier2: pally, shamy.
Tier5: holypriest.
Tier6: disc.

That's the only valid answer on the thread.

[Flowsion]

putting mw under disc when they've the biggest output, rofl

do you understand what an equals sign means

i also have no idea what video you're talking about

[Taeldorian]

Easily Hpally or Rsham. I've done plenty of mythic+ all the way up to 8 so far as holy pally and I haven't had too many issues. Most of the groups I run with use voice though, so it's easier since we have coordination.

BoV is an amazing tool. Can heal an entire group to full with 1 spell and can keep them topped off for a while. We also have good damage when it's needed which is really nice. The utility of BoP is also great and sac is decent for heavy tank damage situations. Overall, Hpally is really good imo.

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Tier1: Mw, druid.
Tier2: pally, shamy.
Tier5: holypriest.
Tier6: disc.

I'd put MW in tier 2 and make tier 1 have Rsham, Hpally and Rdruid. That would make tier 1 consist of strong output healers who have nice utility and damage to go along with the strong heals.

That would make it look like this:

Good tier-Tier 1: Rdruid, Rsham, Hpally. Strong heals, strong utility, decent damage.

Okay tier-Tier 2: MW, Hpriest. Decent healing, meh utility, meh damage.

Bad tier-Tier 3: disc priest. Okay damage, meh healing, meh utility.

[lonely zergling]

"Mw, meh damage," - you lost me here mate .

[Thisiswrong]

Disc priest here. Did a mythic 10+ yesterday with 4 minutes to spare. I think disc has the best toolkit for mythic +.

Did it with a shadow priest else shaman by hunter and a prot pally. We all know prot pallies take any to much damage due to there shield not working and I did it fine.

[Varmin]

Okay tier-Tier 2: MW, Hpriest. Decent healing, meh utility, meh damage.

MW has waaay more damage than Hpriest lol. Are you not playing with fistweaving MW?

[Taeldorian]

MW has waaay more damage than Hpriest lol. Are you not playing with fistweaving MW?

I put them on the same tier because regardless of damage, they both lack utility. So even if MW has decent damage, Id still take Holy pally, Rdruid and Rsham over one any day.

Its not that MWs healing is bad, its that those 3 healers I listed in tier 1 have way more utility than MW and can also bring the same amount of damage as MW and in some cases stronger healing.

Let me reiterate and expand on the tiers better-

Tier 1. Holy pally, Resto druid, Resto shaman. Reasons- All 3 have really good utility, strong burst healing, versatile (meaning St talent builds and aoe talent builds} talents and good damage. These 3 healers are all around really good and provide a strong kit for mythic+.

Tier 2. MW and Holy priest. Reasons- Both dont have nearly as much utility as the healers in Tier 1. MW brings good damage but at the expense of good utility. Why bring that when I can bring a healer who has both good damage, good heals and good utility. Hpriest is here because it lacks both good damage and decent utility. It has a flexible kit regarding aoe healing or St healing, but so do the 3 healers in T1.

Tier 3. Disc priest. Reasons- Not many people really know how to play disc well, which is why Im putting it here. If someone can play disc at the level its meant to be played, it can be an extremely good healer in Mythic+, but not many people do so its hard to say if it belongs anywhere but tier 3 at the moment.

[Varmin]

I put them on the same tier because regardless of damage, they both lack utility. So even if MW has decent damage, Id still take Holy pally, Rdruid and Rsham over one any day.

I wouldn't put them on the same tier because I would much rather take a MW than a holy priest. I wasn't talking about MW vs pally/druid/sham, those 3 are clearly better than MW. I just see MW as clearly better than Hpriest and shouldn't be on the same tier. Maybe the shamans I have played with have been less skilled, but I clearly see Pally/Druid above them as well.

I see the tiers more of
Pally, Druid
Shaman
MW
Hpriest, DPriest?

Although I've never done a mythic+ with a Disc so kinda hard to judge where they really go.

I don't see tiers as trying to compare the strengths/weakness of each class. If I was pugging a healer and I somehow knew they were all equal skill and gear, I'd take hpally or druid based on the dungeon over any other class. If they didn't exist, I would take shaman over anything below it, and etc.

[Taeldorian]

I wouldn't put them on the same tier because I would much rather take a MW than a holy priest. I wasn't talking about MW vs pally/druid/sham, those 3 are clearly better than MW. I just see MW as clearly better than Hpriest and shouldn't be on the same tier. Maybe the shamans I have played with have been less skilled, but I clearly see Pally/Druid above them as well.

I see the tiers more of
Pally, Druid
Shaman
MW
Hpriest, DPriest?

Although I've never done a mythic+ with a Disc so kinda hard to judge where they really go.

I don't see tiers as trying to compare the strengths/weakness of each class. If I was pugging a healer and I somehow knew they were all equal skill and gear, I'd take hpally or druid based on the dungeon over any other class. If they didn't exist, I would take shaman over anything below it, and etc.

Okay, I could agree with that, but shaman has to be tier 1. They have an insanely good toolkit that nobody can turn down. The 3 best healers Id say right now are the ones listed in Tier 1. So, Hpally, Rdruid, Rsham.

The reason I put Hpriest and MW on the same row is because MW has decent heals and good damage, but lacks a good toolkit which is extremely important when pushing higher mythic+ levels. Hpriest has good heals and bad damage but has a decent toolkit. So if Im comparing those two Id say they are about equal. Hpriest has good heals, bad damage, decent toolkit. MW has good heals, good damage, bad toolkit. So theres tradeoffs when comparing them but Id take either one.

Over everything though, Id grab a holy paladin, Rsham or Rdruid. Those 3 are just far ahead. Strong heals, Strong damage, Strong toolkit. These 3 are really good choices when pushing anything above mythic 6. I just ran mythic 8 an hour or so ago as a holy paladin and the strong damage+strong toolkit helps so much.

So, if I were to restate again I would just copy and paste what I said above.

Tier 1. Holy pally, Resto druid, Resto shaman. Reasons- All 3 have really good utility, strong burst healing, versatile (meaning St talent builds and aoe talent builds} talents and good damage. These 3 healers are all around really good and provide a strong kit for mythic+. TLDR- Strong toolkit, Strong heals, Strong damage and versatile heals.

Tier 2. MW and Holy priest. Reasons- Both dont have nearly as much utility as the healers in Tier 1. MW brings good damage but at the expense of good utility. Why bring that when I can bring a healer who has both good damage, good heals and good utility. Hpriest is here because it lacks both good damage and decent utility. It has a flexible kit regarding aoe healing or St healing, but so do the 3 healers in T1. TLDR- These two have tradeoffs. MW has good damage and decent heals but a bad toolkit while Hpriest has good heals and bad damage but a decent toolkit.

Tier 3. Disc priest. Reasons- Not many people really know how to play disc well, which is why Im putting it here. If someone can play disc at the level its meant to be played, it can be an extremely good healer in Mythic+, but not many people do so its hard to say if it belongs anywhere but tier 3 at the moment. TLDR- I put disc here because Im not 100% sure how good disc priests can perform, but from what Ive seen not many people can play disc at its full potential so I put it here based on that.

The main reason for comparing MW with Hpriest and putting it on the same row is because they have a few tradeoffs that put them on equal ground. At least in my opinion. Thats just how I see it, not saying this is fact or anything.

[JonBeMerkin]

rdruid>rsham=hpriest>rsham>disc=mw

.....cringe

[Astraios]

How is MW low utility? They have the same low CD stun that rsham have, a second ranged CC in paralysis which can act as an interrupt on many trash mobs, and some of the highest burst healing through mana-dump spells. Whereas an rsham is gated by CD's, a MW is gated by mana. Since mana is a non-issue in M+, MW can at will pump out similar healing as an rsham using CD's. All thats left is spirit link vs LC, HTT vs revival, and chi ji vs (insert AG or ascendance). Hint, the only one of those that the MW loses in an M+ environment is maybe spirit link.

That leaves rsham bringing bloodlust and self-rez, and MW bringing significantly better AoE dps and superior ability to react to incoming damage patterns throughout a dungeon.

Voting MW as not T1 for M+ mostly implies ignorance about the MW toolkit. Rsham actually tend to lack single target throughput when it comes to M+ in my experience. Something that MW/Hpal/Rdruid can bring in spades.

[Purpleisbetter]

Doing M+ with my R.Druid which is now my main toon; the only limitation i've are my friends which they are cheap f*ks who don't want to spend money into enchants and gems and do not play fotm specs for M+.

I simply have everything but good AoE DPS and a long duration CC.

My druid is a Tauren, so i also have access to a 2min stun, altho its definitively not a strong one. Still have mighty bash and Vortex which is a spell that can be situationally really good.

[Deleted]

Disc has one of the better toolkits for mythic+. Good Disc is very flexible with it's nature (can start doing more damage or more healing on the fly, depending on what's useful in given situation) and top tier.