Struggling with rage as prot now

[Deleted]

Hey guys, Im only around an 830ish ilvl prot war but since this patch Ive been having a shit time tanking even heroics on some bigger pulls. Basically my uptime on IP is dogshit now as I never seem to get enough rage. Im using SS/Rev/Intercept on cooldown and am specced Ult/veng, only really using FR when it procs for free since the nerfs.. but i still just cant get the rage sometimes to keep IP going half as much as id like.

Not sure if im just missing something vital or what. Any suggestions?

[stgeorge78]

Nope, that's the way it works now. Prot Warriors are a distant last in tanking now.

[TEHPALLYTANK]

How often could you use it before? Can you give me an estimate of how many uses per minute or how much delay between uses?

[Jazzhands]

Nope, that's the way it works now. Prot Warriors are a distant last in tanking now.

Funny, every tank class seems to think they're last. Sounds like balance to me.

You are right about how the class works though, your uptime on IP went down instead of the amount absorbed, an odd way for blizzard to go about it IMO, vengeance was very fun and now its practically unusable.

[Ghier]

Funny, every tank class seems to think they're last. Sounds like balance to me.

You are right about how the class works though, your uptime on IP went down instead of the amount absorbed, an odd way for blizzard to go about it IMO, vengeance was very fun and now its practically unusable.

That will be changing:

We are discussing a potential hotfix to increase rage generation from Shield Slam and reduce Ignore Pain's maximum absorption, so hopefully that will help with any 'clunky' feeling you guys have been noting.

[Jazzhands]

That will be changing:

We are discussing a potential hotfix to increase rage generation from Shield Slam and reduce Ignore Pain's maximum absorption, so hopefully that will help with any 'clunky' feeling you guys have been noting.

Good, I felt real bad for my warrior co-tank when we went into EN after the nerfs. The numbers weren't bad, he was just incredibly bored.

[Holofernes]

for me no difference noticable, but i was mastery / vers geared prot before. (offspec to my arms mainspec). I think haste -geared prot got the shaft. As prot warrior you spend your rage mostly the moment you get it, outside of a very few mobs were u keep 10 rage and a shield block charge for special abilities.
There is an old saying for prot, and it stems from classic: if your tank has a ragebar, he is doing it wrong.

[Deleted]

The additional nerf to IP even with coupled with SS rage increase is so stupid... it's not necessary by any means...

[Deleted]

Feel ok in raids since the nerfs if clunky af, but mythic+ on the higher levels with double affixes the difference is ridiculous. Take a hit for about 70% of your healthbar and gain like 7 rage. And some stuff like Oakheart's grab damage don't even give you rage at all.

They just nerfed the control you have over your own survival, which is such a bewildering way to go about it.

[skitzy129]

Nope, that's the way it works now. Prot Warriors are a distant last in tanking now.

So brutally stupid and inaccurate.

[Deleted]

Nope, that's the way it works now. Prot Warriors are a distant last in tanking now.

Funny how the world first Xavius Mythic was done with 2x Prot Warriors AFTER this nerf to rage generation.

[ReD-EyeD]

Funny how the world first Xavius Mythic was done with 2x Prot Warriors AFTER this nerf to rage generation.

Absolutely nobody is arguing about prot warriors usability as a progression tanks because of this stupid rage for % damage mechanics. Well, at least no intellectual human beings of course.

And Xavius isn't even a hard hitting boss in the first place.

[skitzy129]

Absolutely nobody is arguing about prot warriors usability as a progression tanks because of this stupid rage for % damage mechanics.

And Xavius isn't even a hard hitting boss in the first place.

But bruh, Prot warriors are a distant last in tanking now according to stgeorge78. Literally unplayable.

[Deleted]

Absolutely nobody is arguing about prot warriors usability as a progression tanks because of this stupid rage for % damage mechanics. Well, at least no intellectual human beings of course.

And Xavius isn't even a hard hitting boss in the first place.

So lets just keep crying how prot warriors are distant last in tank rankings?

Sidenote, Xavius is a joke and should have been the 6th boss and not the 7th but I didn't want to confuse the OP since he is crying about heroic dungeons, which aren't even real content.

[ReD-EyeD]

But bruh, Prot warriors are a distant last in tanking now according to stgeorge78. Literally unplayable.

Yeah, I had to edit my post because of that

In Arms section we had people who were saying that to dps with arms spec you "have to guess the procs" too.

[stgeorge78]

Funny how the world first Xavius Mythic was done with 2x Prot Warriors AFTER this nerf to rage generation.

Of course because every mythic group was going balls out on prot warriors, what were they gonna do, put in tanks with fresh artifacts - they assigned their best tanks to prot warrior, they were stuck with it.

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But bruh, Prot warriors are a distant last in tanking now according to stgeorge78. Literally unplayable.

Keep saying stupid stuff and keep getting banned.

[Merander]

Vengeance is not worth using to me anymore i use Avatar and Booming Voice, BV is really great for getting that 60 Rage Dragon Scale IP

[Deleted]

Nope, that's the way it works now. Prot Warriors are a distant last in tanking now.

Yeah, no. Guardian druid is probably the only tank better than warrior after the nerf. Warrior still top tier tank for sure.

Vengeance is not worth using to me anymore i use Avatar and Booming Voice, BV is really great for getting that 60 Rage Dragon Scale IP

I don't even...Vengeance is still the most lucrative choice combined with Ultimatum. There's very little doubt about it.

[Toybox]

Vengeance is not worth using to me anymore i use Avatar and Booming Voice, BV is really great for getting that 60 Rage Dragon Scale IP

Vengeance/Ultimatum still provides the most defensive benefit, and honestly, without it, the class is too dull to keep me awake through a raid night.

I find my Warrior decently fun to play during our mythic progression, but non-raid content just leaves me feeling rage starged in game, & rage capped in real life. It's gotten to the point now where I'm just refusing to play the game outside of raid hours.