Well to be fair there is only 1 VP debate as opposed to 3 presidential debates and historically speaking they have always tried to jam in as many various topics as possible for VP debates due to having 1/3rd the time to ask all the things that a potential president should answer.
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Well to be fair there is only 1 VP debate as opposed to 3 presidential debates and historically speaking they have always tried to jam in as many various topics as possible for VP debates due to having 1/3rd the time to ask all the things that a potential president should answer.
Not true, had nothing to do with interruptions and everything to do with Obama hating debates and not wanting to be there. Obama has always felt that debates are a horrible way of choosing the person you want to elect and didn't want to take part, then the democrats rounded on him and demanded he fight harder or lose the White House and he did. That's the difference between a Trumo debate, Republicans can't accept a bad performance and thus can't demand he do better so Trump won't.
Reactions so far. Not many people deny Kaine won in policy and points. Pence points come from composure but what is composure if your policy sucks
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My issue was why Kaine was wearing a red tie and Pence a blue tie.
Debate went worse than predicted, both Pence and Kaine stuck to talking points and Kaine should have been far more composed, he came off as an ass with all of the interrupting. Yes Trump does it too, but Trump is a dick; acting like an ass hurts Kaine's "I'm a nice guy" image. He should have just been himself instead of acting like Hillary's attack dog, if that was what she was looking for then she should have chosen a different VP.
I think Pence won the debate, Kaine gets a couple points for content but really neither of them answered the moderator's questions and BOTH of them were rude by talking over her/interrupting/not answering the questions given.
A lot of people are saying that the vice president debates don't effect the polls at all. I think Tim Kaine realized that and just tried to damage Trump as much as possible. He just showed the entire world that Trump's vice president can't even defend his policies. My observation is based on other people opinions though because I haven't watched the debates. I am gonna watch it tomorrow but I am feeling really lazy right now.
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One of the big things is of course how much they had to juggle: defending themselves AND their running mate, and debate the other AND attack their running mate, and the amount of material on the running mates alone is staggering enough in this election. I think Kaine got ahead of himself trying to do too much at once, and hurt himself in presentation.
I'm also going to agree with this:
If Kaine's primary goal was to demonstrate that Trump simply can't be defended, then he did that fairly well, though obviously better composure would've helped his cause more. I think he also did a better job (in content) defending and promoting Clinton than Pence did for Trump.
I've never seen Kaine behave stately, though I've only been following since Clinton picked him. He has always come off as simple (not dumb but someone not into political decorum), casual, speaks the same way on camera that he does at home. We've seen it at the DNC, we've seen on TV interviews, we saw it at the debate. Thats why Clinton picked him, because he has no filter and can be her attack dog.
Pence came off as being fake and passive aggressive. I get that he was trying to contrast Trump but Pence looked like a statue at times. Talk about stale boring politicians...He also didn't have much to say. Demeanor does not win elections, no makes you good leader. Its a good trait to have but it there is no substance behind it then its useless, see Jeb Bush.
Tomorrow we will here a lot of Conservatives talking about Pence's demeanor, ignoring that Trump was nominated because he is the exact opposite, ignoring that Kaine wiped the floor with him in ever other aspect of the debate.
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Why is this relevant.
And if you can let's start by only you listing the whole problems gays and women have that white males do not? Besides sex with men or an menstrual cycle.
Just you alone, no one else can answer for you or be your white knight. You white knighted your way in now talk yourself back out.
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I'd imagine there still places they can't get married. They also aren't protected by anti-discrimination laws in some places as well. They can't adopt in some places or give blood even if they meet every requirement. Not all sexual orientation are welcomed into the army either.
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Reality denying? Ha people living on the street don't care about your first world problems.
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a simple google search will tell you 13 states and getting smaller but all they have to do is ahhh geeezz move?
Also for the record, I am neither rep or demo or religious and don't care if gays get married or w/e they want to do.