But this raiding tier is easier than the previous one because you can outgear them thanks to mythic + dungeons. Maybe farm more mythic + 5 mans instead of using pots?
Talking NM / HC modes here. For pushing Mythic i understand the issue.
But this raiding tier is easier than the previous one because you can outgear them thanks to mythic + dungeons. Maybe farm more mythic + 5 mans instead of using pots?
Talking NM / HC modes here. For pushing Mythic i understand the issue.
I paid for my first level 40 mount by selling you guys Stonescale Eels from Tanaris for 1g each. I could catch 8-10 an hour.
I really don't fancy a return to that, where half the player base only exists to feed raiders with potions.
Farming enough herbs for an evening of raiding is no real problem. Buying them is expensive because everyone is sitting on mountains of gold from WoD. It'll balance out once the millionaires stop buying raid mats at crazy prices and farm their own.
Assuming you raid 10 hours a week (most semi-hardcore or casual guilds in my server do 5 days - 2 hours routine) or 9 hours if you 3 days - 3 hours:
You will need 1 flask every hour (9-10 flasks) and arround 20 pots every hour (180-200 week)
Farming time:
100xAethril: ~15-20min level 1
100xFoxflower: ~30min level 1 (with no fox procs)
100xDreamleaf: ~10 mins level 1 (queue for nm Darkheart with guildies, repeat until you have infinite dreamleaf for everyone)
100xFjarnkkaggl: ~25 mins level 1
100xStarlight Rose: ~1 hour level 2
Materials:
INT Flask: 100xDream 100XFjarns 70xStarlight = 1 1/2 hours/week
STR Flask: 100x Aethril 100x Fox 70xStarlight = 1 3/4 hours/week
AGI Flask: 100xFox 100xFjarns 70xStarlight = 1 3/4 hours week
Melee pot: 800xfoxflower 800xfjarns 200xstarlight = ~10 hours/week
Ranged pot: 800xDreamleaf 800xFjarns 200x Starlight = 7 1/2 hours/week
Mana pot: free because yseralline is gathered in all herbs
Healing pot: free because yseralline is gathered in all herbs
Armor pot: 800x Aethril 800xFoxflower 200xStarlight = ~10 hours/week
As you can see the worst case: You are a tank or melee STR user, you have to farm 12 hours max for flaks and pots. This taking in account you pot AND prepot every pull, never rotate, and you get 0 procs on pots and flasks multipliers, with herbalism level 1 and every herbalism recipe in rank 1 (except for starlights). You can even use Draenor pots in farming bosses or even just use "expensive" pots if the boss is "about to die" (multiple wipes ~30-20% hp on the boss). If you are doing this you spend arround 4 hours week farming (still taking in account you enver rotate) which is IMO not too much.
You do not farm 30mins to an hour for flasks and pots.
The herbs alone you need for 10flasks will take you around 2h give or take that includes the roses and the 2 x100 of the 2 herbs u need for your flask.
Unless you are very lucky with rose mob spawns and foxes or have rank 3 on aethril and get multiple nod procs there is no way you farm in 30mins to an hour 10 flasks.
Not even gonna put potions in to account.
Does anyone have any idea WHY Blizzard chose to make potions cost way more than in previous expansions? (MoP: 2 common herbs; WoD: 3 common herbs; Legion: 8 common herbs + 2 uncommon)
Not an issue for me (and I used to be piss poor), what's slowly making me quit is my total inability to find a competent guild.
There is absolutely no need to use pots and especially runes on bosses while learning the fight on every try. Playing shitty because you dont know all the timings of a fight cost the raid way more dps than using a pot or even that worthless rune. Unless you are a world first guild, but il bet even they dont use runes, because you cant even have that many. The rune in WoD was like 0,5% overall dps for the raid, or something like that.
ithink in my entire hardcore raiding history i can count the number of 1% wipes on one hand where we wiped because someone didnt use a pot.
The only situation where you have to use pots while learning is if the encounter has a hard dmg check early in the fight that you are required to meet to progress your stategy.
And before you say im a lfr raider, i raided all addons (3 raids/week), killed all tiers prenerfed (e.g. Archi overall world~ 200/EU ~100).
Raids who have higher expectation that that probably dont have a gold problem to use pots all the time if they choose to, and everybody below doesnt have to.
Last edited by Genju; 2016-10-06 at 06:03 PM.
The WoW coin doesn't even sell for that much. Prices are so out of whack that you could probably pay somebody minimum wage to farm herbs and ores for you and get more gold per dollar than spending your after tax dollars on the wow coin.