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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    "Nigel Farage: A National Hero"Which nation exactly? It sure isn't the UK, nor any of the individual Home Nations.
    why is that, nigel farage saw the future of the EU collapsing and all you europhiles need to get your heads outta your arses and start paying attention your precious little EU isnt going to last forever so better that we are out now before the shit hits the fan over in the EU, people say we are gonna have a shitstorm in the UK if so its gonna be nothing compared to the EU shitstorm lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Tories and Whigs are both mock namesOriginally they meant "irish cattle thief" and "scottish highwayrobber"Oh and... Nigel - i hate the EU, but take the big paycheck as a member of the european parliament each month - Farrage? Nah... that guy is history
    what so you want him to work for free, yes he was comapiging to leave the EU as an MEP whic hmeant the loss of his job cant you see what sacrifices he has made to kill this pathetic EU state

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    Quote Originally Posted by FurryFoxWolf View Post
    why is that, nigel farage saw the future of the EU collapsing and all you europhiles need to get your heads outta your arses and start paying attention your precious little EU isnt going to last forever so better that we are out now before the shit hits the fan over in the EU, people say we are gonna have a shitstorm in the UK if so its gonna be nothing compared to the EU shitstorm lol
    What are you wittering on about? Farage is a cock and whether or not you wanted the UK in or out of the EU, he is still a cock.

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    Seriously, OP, do you think that there is one party in the entire world that does not pretend ''we are caring for the common man'' ?

    In a more general manner, I'm amazed about how easy it is to sell that the woes of the United Kingdom are because of the eeeevil UE.

    The shipbuilding industry is gone because of the UE ?
    The coal mines are gone because of the UE ?
    The automobile industry is gone because of the UE ?

    Do you think the eeeeevil UE will meekly continue to build the Airbus wings in England ? Do you think that England will magically become self-sufficient in agriculture and stop buying eeeviel UE food products (hint : the UK stopped to be self sufficient in foodstuffs in the 18th century

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    Quote Originally Posted by FurryFoxWolf View Post
    why is that, nigel farage saw the future of the EU collapsing and all you europhiles need to get your heads outta your arses and start paying attention your precious little EU isnt going to last forever so better that we are out now before the shit hits the fan over in the EU, people say we are gonna have a shitstorm in the UK if so its gonna be nothing compared to the EU shitstorm lol

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    what so you want him to work for free, yes he was comapiging to leave the EU as an MEP whic hmeant the loss of his job cant you see what sacrifices he has made to kill this pathetic EU state
    Once again, Europe was such an happy place free of issues and problems before the eeeeevil UE. After all, having France and Germany whacking at each other every 20 years causing exponential number of deaths is a minor issue compared to regulations toward dairy products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Seriously, OP, do you think that there is one party in the entire world that does not pretend ''we are caring for the common man'' ?

    In a more general manner, I'm amazed about how easy it is to sell that the woes of the United Kingdom are because of the eeeevil UE.

    The shipbuilding industry is gone because of the UE ?
    The coal mines are gone because of the UE ?
    The automobile industry is gone because of the UE ?

    Do you think the eeeeevil UE will meekly continue to build the Airbus wings in England ?

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    Once again, Europe was such an happy place free of issues and problems before the eeeeevil UE. After all, having France and Germany whacking at each other every 20 years causing exponential number of deaths is a minor issue compared to regulations toward dairy products.
    You realise the EU prevents countries from protecting their industries right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Once again, Europe was such an happy place free of issues and problems before the eeeeevil UE. After all, having France and Germany whacking at each other every 20 years causing exponential number of deaths is a minor issue compared to regulations toward dairy products.
    Not that I'm (entirely) anti-EU but saying that it has prevented a third world war is a pretty silly argument for keeping the organization around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelk View Post
    You realise the EU prevents countries from protecting their industries right?
    That's not a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Once again, Europe was such an happy place free of issues and problems before the eeeeevil UE. After all, having France and Germany whacking at each other every 20 years causing exponential number of deaths is a minor issue compared to regulations toward dairy products.
    Heads up, the UK is not Germany or France. We just stepped in to give the boche a damned good thrashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelk View Post
    You realise the EU prevents countries from protecting their industries right?
    You miss the point (you also fail to realize that it's pretty ironic here, considering that the non UE-UK pushed for free trade since Queen Victoria at the very least)

    All those industries were gone or dying well before the EU economic integration.

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    TIL: regulating dairy products is what keeps Europe at peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    Heads up, the UK is not Germany or France. We just stepped in to give the boche a damned good thrashing.
    In a positive and constructive way, the good old days in which the UK ''kept the balance of power in Europe'' are done since a certain fight on the slopes of Mount Saint-Jean....And even there, the UK was never an ''island'' unconnected to Europe-from the Palatine Elector to the Hannover woes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nextormento View Post
    TIL: regulating dairy products is what keeps Europe at peace.
    No. But screaming about those regulations is a fig leaf. In the specific UK case, it's not the fault of the UE if their cattle industry/dairy industry is in crisis, it's because of Creutzelft-Jakob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    In a positive and constructive way, the good old days in which the UK ''kept the balance of power in Europe'' are done since a certain fight on the slopes of Mount Saint-Jean....And even there, the UK was never an ''island'' unconnected to Europe-from the Palatine Elector to the Hannover woes.
    We fought the frogs at Waterloo, not the boche.

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    Yes, that is the concept of balance of power. Fight the French, the Germans, or the Russians, according to who is the more powerful. That was a concept even at the peak of the power of the Royal Navy : in the 18th century for instance, considerations for Hannover trumped anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Yes, that is the concept of balance of power. Fight the French, the Germans, or the Russians, according to who is the more powerful. That was a concept even at the peak of the power of the Royal Navy : in the 18th century for instance, considerations for Hannover trumped anything.
    We didn't fight ze Germans in WWII because they were the most powerful, we fought them because they invaded Poland.

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    Specifically and explicitly, the Entente Cordiale started because of Tirpitz shipbuilding program (an incredibly stupid move by Whilem II, should I say) and the entry of the United Kingdom in WW1 was secured by the German invasion of Belgium. AKA, even there, the United Kingdom could not say ''we are an island, we are not concerned about what happen on the continent''

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    Farage was a founding member of the United Kingdom Independence Party which was set up with the main purpose of getting the UK to leave the EU.

    The way I see it, Farage has completed his life's work in politics. Good for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Specifically and explicitly, the Entente Cordiale started because of Tirpitz shipbuilding program (an incredibly stupid move by Whilem II, should I say) and the entry of the United Kingdom in WW1 was secured by the German invasion of Belgium. AKA, even there, the United Kingdom could not say ''we are an island, we are not concerned about what happen on the continent''
    We fought against other nations because it was in our interests to do so.

    I am not really sure where you are going with this, as your claim was about Europe pre-EU, but it wasn't us going around invading European nations, we were content to just invade the Fuzzy Wuzzies and steal their stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FurryFoxWolf View Post
    [video=youtube;OK376_SIxAQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK376_SIxAQ[video] . this man is the only person involved in politics who has stuck to what he believed in, he and UKIP are the only people and party fighting for real peoples rights, all the other partys dnt care about real peoples issues just look at the tories under cameron for 6 years food banks increased. the video is long yes but its worth watching cos its all true, but OFC the pro remainers and europhiles and fans of any party apart from UKIP are going to attack me on here cos there so predictable
    Didn't watch the video, but... Ugh, this spelling. :/
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    I can't explain it because I'm an idiot, and I have to live with that post for the rest of my life. Better to just smile and back away slowly. Ignore it so that it can go away.
    Thanks for the avatar goes to Carbot Animations and Sy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsybob View Post
    Farage was a founding member of the United Kingdom Independence Party which was set up with the main purpose of getting the UK to leave the EU.

    The way I see it, Farage has completed his life's work in politics. Good for him.
    We're still in the EU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    We fought against other nations because it was in our interests to do so.

    I am not really sure where you are going with this, as your claim was about Europe pre-EU, but it wasn't us going around invading European nations, we were content to just invade the Fuzzy Wuzzies and steal their stuff.
    The British Empire expansion just happened to be during the previous anomaly in European history : a whole century of relative peace between 1815 and 1914. ''Relative'' as in ''just one country whacking on the other'', not global coalitions like under Louis XIV or Napoléon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    The British Empire expansion just happened to be during the previous anomaly in European history : a whole century of relative peace between 1815 and 1914. ''Relative'' as in ''just one country whacking on the other'', not global coalitions like under Louis XIV or Napoléon.
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    A relative peace, as I said-it was an improvement over Napoleon.

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