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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    A relative peace, as I said-it was an improvement over Napoleon.
    You described relative as one country whacking on another and not global coalitions, but the Crimean War screws that up, as that was Britain, France and the Ottomans giving the Russians a kicking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FurryFoxWolf View Post
    no thats what all the careeer politicians do not nigel farage i think if anyones a sheep it is you
    Nice try, Nigel. Go back to being a dick to everyone, and try to save your stupid party from destroying itself.
    Mother pus bucket!

  3. #63
    Hypocritical poiitician, a true hero of the common folk! FurryFoxWolf threads might just be worse than Tenissace threads. I thought he was dense in computer subforum, but this a whole new level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FurryFoxWolf View Post
    . this man is the only person involved in politics who has stuck to what he believed in, he and UKIP are the only people and party fighting for real peoples rights, all the other partys dnt care about real peoples issues just look at the tories under cameron for 6 years food banks increased. the video is long yes but its worth watching cos its all true, but OFC the pro remainers and europhiles and fans of any party apart from UKIP are going to attack me on here cos there so predictable
    He did it for furry fox wolves everywhere. Go Nigel!

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by FurryFoxWolf View Post
    no thats what all the careeer politicians do not nigel farage i think if anyones a sheep it is you
    If you don't think Farage is a career politician I have a bridge to sell you.

    Farage has been a politician since his failed career in banking in the 1980s, he blames the failings on workers rights laws that come from Brussels/Strasbourg which basically meant "You can't fuck over your workers.". He was originally a conservative that founded UKIP (Wow surprise there a UKIPPER that was once a Tory /s) after Maastricht and conned people into thinking all our woes come from outside these islands and on somehow the big evil that is Europe.

    The guy has a German wife and when asked what's wrong with having Romanians next door and not Germans he shoved it off as "You know what I mean." when quite frankly that's basically showing how fucked up his mind set is thinking some people are sub human compared to others. The guy is a failed bankers, a liar and essentially conned the brain dead of this country who are basically little Englanders OAPs who think we still are a super power and those who can't compete with Polish workers who do their jobs better and cheaper than they could into voting out.

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    He is a politician who can't keep his promises, just like all the rest. Not exactly hero material.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    A relative peace, as I said-it was an improvement over Napoleon.
    Not really. The 1800s was a century of warfare in Europe. Most of Which the UK didn't bother with post Napoleon outside of the Greek war of independence and Crimea war. But outside of that Europe was in consistant wars in the German states, Italy, Low countries, failing Ottoman empire, Austrian Empire etc.

  8. #68
    Well, compared to the 18th century and the 20th one, it was peaceful.

    Also, which ''constant wars'' in Europe ?

    The German-Danish war
    The Austro-Prussian war
    The Franco Prussian war
    The Italo-Austrian war

    Except the third, they were vey contained affaires, solved in a few weeks, if not months.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Well, compared to the 18th century and the 20th one, it was peaceful.

    Also, which ''constant wars'' in Europe ?

    The German-Danish war
    The Austro-Prussian war
    The Franco Prussian war
    The Italo-Austrian war

    Except the third, they were vey contained affaires, solved in a few weeks, if not months.
    1809 Polish–Austrian War
    1815–1817 Second Serbian Uprising
    1817–1864 Russian conquest of the Caucasus
    1821–1832 Greek War of Independence
    1821 Wallachian uprising
    1823 French invasion of Spain
    1826–1828 Russo-Persian War
    1827 War of the Malcontents
    1828–1829 Russo-Turkish War
    1828–1834 Liberal Wars
    1830 Ten Days' Campaign (following the Belgian Revolution)
    1830–1831 November Uprising
    1831 Canut revolts
    1831–1832 Bosnian Uprising
    1831–1836 Tithe War
    1832 War in the Vendée and Chouannerie of 1832
    1832 June Rebellion
    1833–1839 First Carlist War
    1833–1839 Albanian Revolts of 1833–39
    1843–1844 Albanian Revolt of 1843–44
    1846 Galician slaughter
    1846–1849 Second Carlist War
    1847 Albanian Revolt of 1847
    1847 Sonderbund War
    1848–1849 Hungarian Revolution and War of Independence
    1848–1851 First Schleswig War
    1848–1849 First Italian War of Independence
    1853–1856 Crimean War
    1854 Epirus Revolt of 1854
    1858 Mahtra War
    1859 Second Italian War of Independence
    1861–62 Montenegrin–Ottoman War (1861–62)
    1863–1864 January Uprising
    1864 Second Schleswig War
    1866 Austro-Prussian War
    1866–1869 Cretan Revolt
    1866 Third Italian War of Independence
    1867 Fenian Rising
    1870–1871 Franco-Prussian War
    1872–1876 Third Carlist War
    1873–1874 Cantonal Revolution
    1875–77 Herzegovina Uprising (1875–77)
    1876–78 Serbian–Ottoman War (1876–78)
    1876–78 Montenegrin–Ottoman War (1876–78)
    1877–1878 Russo-Turkish War
    1878 Epirus Revolt of 1878
    1885 Serbo-Bulgarian War
    1897 Greco–Turkish War

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    If you don't think Farage is a career politician I have a bridge to sell you.

    Farage has been a politician since his failed career in banking in the 1980s, he blames the failings on workers rights laws that come from Brussels/Strasbourg which basically meant "You can't fuck over your workers.". He was originally a conservative that founded UKIP (Wow surprise there a UKIPPER that was once a Tory /s) after Maastricht and conned people into thinking all our woes come from outside these islands and on somehow the big evil that is Europe.
    You misunderstand how 'career politician' is used. Career politicians tend to be consensus politicians in comfortable seats in decently sized parties barely rocking the boat or challenging any consensus in their party. Being in politics for a long time doesn't make you a 'career politician'.

    The guy has a German wife and when asked what's wrong with having Romanians next door and not Germans he shoved it off as "You know what I mean." when quite frankly that's basically showing how fucked up his mind set is thinking some people are sub human compared to others. The guy is a failed bankers, a liar
    His comment about Romanians, or insinuation was dogwhistle, plausible deniability stuff. I can't defend it. Even a charitable interpretation of his comments makes him look bad. The only redeeming thing that anyone can say about it is that he was heavily pushed by the presenter throughout that debate. Shotgun argument aplenty.

    and essentially conned the brain dead of this country who are basically little Englanders OAPs who think we still are a super power and those who can't compete with Polish workers who do their jobs better and cheaper than they could into voting out.
    This kind of attitude engenders support towards parties like UKIP.

    Also, I can't help but note the laughable inconsistency in your position. You complain that Farage objects to workers rights laws then complain about British workers complaining about being undercut by cheap foreign labour. Which is it? You also make a racist attack against many working-class and low skilled English workers by suggesting that Polish workers tend to be better and talk about their general willingness to be exploited by cheap employers as a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Seriously, OP, do you think that there is one party in the entire world that does not pretend ''we are caring for the common man'' ?In a more general manner, I'm amazed about how easy it is to sell that the woes of the United Kingdom are because of the eeeevil UE.The shipbuilding industry is gone because of the UE ?The coal mines are gone because of the UE ?The automobile industry is gone because of the UE ?Do you think the eeeeevil UE will meekly continue to build the Airbus wings in England ? Do you think that England will magically become self-sufficient in agriculture and stop buying eeeviel UE food products (hint : the UK stopped to be self sufficient in foodstuffs in the 18th century - - - Updated - - -Once again, Europe was such an happy place free of issues and problems before the eeeeevil UE. After all, having France and Germany whacking at each other every 20 years causing exponential number of deaths is a minor issue compared to regulations toward dairy products.
    UE its EU moron, the coal mines were sold off by maggy thatcher, all you people saying leaving is bad, even if we remained we wil eventually have left cos the EU wont last some of you are so hell bent on thinking the EU is this supreme utopia where its all hugging and peace etc, WAKE UP the EU is nothing more than a job destroying and anti democratic politcal union trying to make a united states of europe and theres other ocuntries who are getting more votes to leave the EU like the true fins for example, most of nothern europe wants out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Hellscream View Post
    He is a politician who can't keep his promises, just like all the rest. Not exactly hero material.
    he can keep to his promises cos his main promise was to get UK out of the EU lol, hes prolly th only UK politcian in history to stick with 1 issue and fight for it until the end and he did, what do you think a hero is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hextor View Post
    Hypocritical poiitician, a true hero of the common folk! FurryFoxWolf threads might just be worse than Tenissace threads. I thought he was dense in computer subforum, but this a whole new level.
    how is he a hypocrit he said he wanted the UK to leave the EU and he delivered better than any other politcian

    infracted - minor flaming
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    I like him. He's been pushing to get us out of the EU for so long and finally got the tories to consider it. And now, finally, we're getting out.
    Last edited by Aeula; 2016-10-07 at 04:15 PM.

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    Grammar and syntax aside, what british job the UE (Union Européenne) destroyed ? British coal miners ?


    I know it's very hard to fathom but brace yourself for this startling truth : no migrants (whatever their provenance) is not going to make coal mines profitable again. Even with zero immigration, the British car industry will still struggle to sell cars outside the top end market. Even with guards towers and snipers to shoot everyone coming in the general direction of Britain, it's still going to be next to impossible for Britain (and BAE) to design all by themselves combat aircraft, tanks...

    BTW, yes, I know the drill. Union is for weaklings, for ''degenerate libural beta cucks LULZ''. This is why the United Kingdom is about keeping to yourself in your tiny nation and being agressively hostile to your neighbours. That's why too there was never any kind of movement to unite peacefully hostile kingdoms/nations in the United Kingdom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    Heads up, the UK is not Germany or France. We just stepped in to give the boche a damned good thrashing.
    well done shrelock

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    Quote Originally Posted by nextormento View Post
    TIL: regulating dairy products is what keeps Europe at peace.
    UK can make there own dairy products we have alot of cows here

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    Quote Originally Posted by FurryFoxWolf View Post
    UE its EU moron, the coal mines were sold off by maggy thatcher, all you people saying leaving is bad, even if we remained we wil eventually have left cos the EU wont last some of you are so hell bent on thinking the EU is this supreme utopia where its all hugging and peace etc, WAKE UP the EU is nothing more than a job destroying and anti democratic politcal union trying to make a united states of europe and theres other ocuntries who are getting more votes to leave the EU like the true fins for example, most of nothern europe wants out
    Coal mines were sold off and closed because they can not compete with the world. Coal is dead not just in the UK but everywhere in the western world. Unless you're willing to work for pennies a day we're never going to compete with chinese coal. Or steal, or iron, or any major industry of low technology. There's simply no point trying to keep up.

    Secondly what is undemocratic about the EU. Please please don't say the powerless commission.

    Again you have proven you can't spell, know nothing and pretty much should take English lessons, history lessons and learn something and stop spreading conspiracy bullcrap.

  16. #76
    And BTW, it's fun that all you can find for ''leave the EU'' is ''there is going to be a big war'' (hinted with the subtlety of a 80's action figure commercial about migrants) and that will destroy the weakling in Europe LULZ''. Yep, dude, correct : if everyone bankrupt and is invaded by Russia and there is a nuclear winter and there is a solar flares and the super Yellowstone volcanoe and the avian flu and....UK will be ''fine''.

    Yeah, I suppose that if there was a zombie outbreak like in that documentary ''the Walking Dead'', it would be a good idea for Canada to erect a 50 feet wall with laser guns atop.

  17. #77
    At least we Americans can take comfort between Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson the British can't really say anything if Trump becomes president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Oberyn Martell View Post
    Got to love how he called someone else a moron because of their spelling. Fucking hell. /facepalm
    Well, I'm a French speaker who master in a rather dubious matter the Bard's language. That's why it's completely relevant and useful to point out that my English is bad.

    This said, as someone who use very fluently French, I'm aghast when I see people, while calling other idiots and incompetents, use awful internet grade French riddled with syntax and grammatical errors. Especially when, surprise surprise, those people are blithingly hypernationalists....

    (IE, it's not irrelevant to say ''your English is bad'', to someone who is agressively against ''others'')

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Coal mines were sold off and closed because they can not compete with the world. Coal is dead not just in the UK but everywhere in the western world. Unless you're willing to work for pennies a day we're never going to compete with chinese coal. Or steal, or iron, or any major industry of low technology. There's simply no point trying to keep up.

    Secondly what is undemocratic about the EU. Please please don't say the powerless commission.

    Again you have proven you can't spell, know nothing and pretty much should take English lessons, history lessons and learn something and stop spreading conspiracy bullcrap.
    Pretty much all the OP does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    1809 Polish–Austrian War
    1815–1817 Second Serbian Uprising
    1817–1864 Russian conquest of the Caucasus
    1821–1832 Greek War of Independence
    1821 Wallachian uprising
    1823 French invasion of Spain
    1826–1828 Russo-Persian War
    1827 War of the Malcontents
    1828–1829 Russo-Turkish War
    1828–1834 Liberal Wars
    1830 Ten Days' Campaign (following the Belgian Revolution)
    1830–1831 November Uprising
    1831 Canut revolts
    1831–1832 Bosnian Uprising
    1831–1836 Tithe War
    1832 War in the Vendée and Chouannerie of 1832
    1832 June Rebellion
    1833–1839 First Carlist War
    1833–1839 Albanian Revolts of 1833–39
    1843–1844 Albanian Revolt of 1843–44
    1846 Galician slaughter
    1846–1849 Second Carlist War
    1847 Albanian Revolt of 1847
    1847 Sonderbund War
    1848–1849 Hungarian Revolution and War of Independence
    1848–1851 First Schleswig War
    1848–1849 First Italian War of Independence
    1853–1856 Crimean War
    1854 Epirus Revolt of 1854
    1858 Mahtra War
    1859 Second Italian War of Independence
    1861–62 Montenegrin–Ottoman War (1861–62)


    1863–1864 January Uprising
    1864 Second Schleswig War
    1866 Austro-Prussian War
    1866–1869 Cretan Revolt
    1866 Third Italian War of Independence
    1867 Fenian Rising
    1870–1871 Franco-Prussian War
    1872–1876 Third Carlist War
    1873–1874 Cantonal Revolution
    1875–77 Herzegovina Uprising (1875–77)
    1876–78 Serbian–Ottoman War (1876–78)
    1876–78 Montenegrin–Ottoman War (1876–78)
    1877–1878 Russo-Turkish War
    1878 Epirus Revolt of 1878
    1885 Serbo-Bulgarian War
    1897 Greco–Turkish War
    Yeah. Pretty much. (Please note that a lot of those were civil wars or not occuring in Europe). It was still much more peaceful than the 19th century and the early 20th century. And once again, it does show how much an happy place Europe was when you did not had the Channel to protect you (except if you are a Scot or an Irish...)

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