Youths in Germany chanting right-wing slogans attack refugee children

[May90]

The rigth-wing version of anarchy is anarcho-capitalism, which still has CEO and bosses and the like, so it does not really make a lot of sense to call it anarachy when you think about it.
Libertarianism to its extreme is rather funny.

Well, of course. I find both types of anarchy to be extremely naive, at least, at this point of societal development. Anarchy isn't going to last long, when there are power groups willing to control the society.

[sarahtasher]

So before you say that I make stuff up, please explain the comments about how Lincoln was wrong to free the slaves, the comments about taking up the streets and brutally executing the German government as ''traitors'', and of course the internet tough guys praising this glorious act while parroting ''cultural marxism''

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and he got shot in the fucking face... so yes, the government should listen to its people

The traitorous secessionnists that he just crushed, and for which John Wilkes Booth never bothered to fight for ?

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Disgusting as it is, why does it need it's own thread? Or should we make threads every time a youthful immigrant threatens or stabs a western teenager as well? I remember those threads getting closed prematurely.

[JohnBrown1917]

Well, of course. I find both types of anarchy to be extremely naive, at least, at this point of societal development. Anarchy isn't going to last long, when there are power groups willing to control the society.

I agree, just that anarcho-capitalism is less naive and more a product of greed, its just silly how people think it could work.

[Trassk]

I can't wait to see the justification for threatening and attacking children from the usual suspects....

No justification in hurting children. Its simply that this was bound to happen eventually, given what the german government has done, it was always going to lead to this.

[starlord]

You really REALLY need to digest that practically no one that was consciously involved with the proceedings of Nazi Germany is alive anymore. What your great American schools teach you about Germany is outdated by more than half a century, and the people and their minds have moved on. Quite a bit. Reading Americans talk about Germany, I always get the impression that the early 40s Germany is a lot more alive in the US than in Germany itself. It's like a non-US person constantly referencing everything American to that civil war of yours, and pretty much derive every bad joke and stereo-type from that area. You'd also feel like it would REALLY get old and highly irrelevant by now.

well even here people havent let the civil war go yet, so..

it seems germany hasnt quite let go of their past either.

[Techno-Druid]

Pretty much. Don't dare slander Islam.

I'm sorry, I feel my IQ slowly going down from reading this.

Frankly, Germany shot itself in the foot with letting in way too many unregistered refugees and "refugees." It will likely be an issue in Western Europe for many years to come, with no viable solution in place that doesn't have the potential to fuck at least one side that doesn't deserve to get fucked over.

But Jesus Christ! You're really condoning attacks on Syrian children!? Fucking children! They're probably the refugee demographic that should get the most attention, because they have the most potential to assimilate and secularize, possibly even drop their faith.

I just don't understand how anyone can look at children being attacked and say they deserved it because of what individuals of an entirely different age demographic (and usually of an entirely different ethnicity and nationality as I've heard that most migrant crimes are committed by the aforementioned "refugees") had done.

That's like trying to justify lynchings of old black ladies because young African-American men commit more crimes on average in the US.

I feel like I'm in the fucking funny farm.

[starlord]

I would agree that my example was a bit flawed in this regard. Americans seem to cling to their past failures a bit more than most others. I'd bet you good money that the percentage of actual Neo-Nazis in the spirit of Hitler in Germany is but a fraction of those that take the civil war at equal value. I tried and failed. But I really can't come up with any other probable comparison here, so I took it as the closest thing that came to me.

well i doubt they are *exactly* the same, but such attitudes tend to lurk in the shadows until they feel safe enough to come out. and now they do, which is pretty telling.

[Techno-Druid]

and he got shot in the fucking face... so yes, the government should listen to its people

You're partially correct, Lincoln didn't listen to his people...who wanted to punish the South severely for their treason, if he did then the abolition of slavery would've been the least of the South's problems.

Nope, they just had to pledge their loyalty to the Union...

You also act as if a majority of Americans at that time were in support of slavery or slave owners. Slaves were often owned by wealthy, elitist plantation owners, while a majority of the Southerners were often poor, if not impoverished farmers who often lived no better than the slaves. Slavery in the United States was the worst form of oligarchy or elitism.

It was despised by the North and by a large percentage of the Southern States. Even if Lincoln didn't abolish slavery, there would've been a push by major European and Latin American powers to eventually abolish it. At best, the South would of had a decade more of legalized slavery.

[May90]

I'm sorry, I feel my IQ slowly going down from reading this.

Frankly, Germany shot itself in the foot with letting in way too many unregistered refugees and "refugees." It will likely be an issue in Western Europe for many years to come, with no viable solution in place that doesn't have the potential to fuck at least one side that doesn't deserve to get fucked over.

But Jesus Christ! You're really condoning attacks on Syrian children!? Fucking children! They're probably the refugee demographic that should get the most attention, because they have the most potential to assimilate and secularize, possibly even drop their faith.

I just don't understand how anyone can look at children being attacked and say they deserved it because of what individuals of an entirely different age demographic (and usually of an entirely different ethnicity and nationality as I've heard that most migrant crimes are committed by the aforementioned "refugees") had done.

That's like trying to justify lynchings of old black ladies because young African-American men commit more crimes on average in the US.

I feel like I'm in the fucking funny farm.

You are looking for a rationale where it isn't to be found. Bigotry isn't something based on logic, it is something based on... not even emotions, but just plain intellectual laziness.

[Theodarzna]

Then comes the question: Should the government listen to it's people when the people are being massive retards?

Lincoln, for example, didn't listen to the people when they were upset about slavery being abolished.


The main issue I'm getting out of all this is that there isn't enough effective education.

And in effect Slavery continued in the South under various means and he was shot in the face.

[ArguesWithStrangers]

Anyone who thinks this situation is going to improve is either in denial or isn't paying attention.

[Sliske]

Remember, the best way to show that you don't like another culture's perceived intolerant, backwards nature is to beat up children.

It makes sense, so long as you don't think about it.

I don't think these people particularly care that their culture is 'intolerant and backwards' or violent. They just don't want immigrants en masse of any kind.

As a guy from Northern Ireland, people will find any opportunity they can to kill, beat and generally be dicks to each other.

That said, we did have the mass sexual assault in Cologne last year, a fucking almost organized sexual assault of an entire city the likes of which have never been seen. We've also had one of the worst periods of terror attacks in history this past year, too.

The results speak for themselves. The middle east is filled daily with Islamic bloodletting. A metric shit ton of Muslims come to Europe. What do you find? An almost monthly Islamic terror attack. Its because of these things that people drop the attitude of friendliness and peacefulness.

The German public and Europeans at large are having their good nature taken for granted and tested thoroughly. If I was in charge, I would be worried of pending Islamic terror attacks, but also of just how long Europeans will accept being the lambs that Islamists can freely slaughter.

I'm actually surprised open murder hasn't already become common place against Muslims in Germany and other countries.

This refugee situation is one of the biggest mistakes Europe has ever faced.

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Anyone who thinks this situation is going to improve is either in denial or isn't paying attention.

Improve for the Europeans perhaps, definitely not for the refugees.

[starlord]

Are YOU living in Germany with first-hand every day experience or am I!? (Hint: The solution begins with "I".)

it seems to be a growing problem, judging by all the news about right-wingers lately.

[Kaleredar]

I don't think these people particularly care that their culture is 'intolerant and backwards' or violent. They just don't want immigrants en masse of any kind.

As a guy from Northern Ireland, people will find any opportunity they can to kill, beat and generally be dicks to each other.

That said, we did have the mass sexual assault in Cologne last year, a fucking almost organized sexual assault of an entire city the likes of which have never been seen. We've also had one of the worst periods of terror attacks in history this past year, too.

The results speak for themselves. The middle east is filled daily with Islamic bloodletting. A metric shit ton of Muslims come to Europe. What do you find? An almost monthly Islamic terror attack. Its because of these things that people drop the attitude of friendliness and peacefulness.

The German public and Europeans at large are having their good nature taken for granted and tested thoroughly. If I was in charge, I would be worried of pending Islamic terror attacks, but also of just how long Europeans will accept being the lambs that Islamists can freely slaughter.

I'm actually surprised open murder hasn't already become common place against Muslims in Germany and other countries.

This refugee situation is one of the biggest mistakes Europe has ever faced.

Regardless of the slights real or imagined, beating up children isn't going to solve the issue.

This attitude of "well the immigrants..." in some of these posts is pretty much the exact same thing as saying "well the children deserved it." They didn't do jack shit; they're children.

And I've no illusions about where this violence is coming from or why it's being directed at children in this case. But the fact still stands that it isn't solving anything. No one is safer for it. The actual problems raised by the immigrant influx go unsolved.

It's just blind, knee-jerk reaction from some members of a society who are claiming to be better than members of another society. The notion of "but the immigrants..." just seeks to defend the afformentioned people and rationalize the things they're doing.

[GennGreymane]

Gotta love the people on this thread defending the act of assaulting children.

[Nadiru]

Of all the places you were going to introduce a visible racial minority into, the powers that be picked Germany? Germany. And it's surprising to someone that events like this happen? Did people think the German people were "better" than this now? Sorry, Charlie, people don't get better or worse, they react to stimuli.

[Mayhem]

Well, saying that right wing are nationalists and national socialists is like saying that left wing are communists and marxists. Would be more reasonable to just call it "nationalist slogans".

It´s probably due to translation, but it´s what they are called in german.

Here this might help to clear the fog:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E...right_politics

Don´t take it with your understanding of right and left, because it might very well mean something different in another part of the world.

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right wing is not the same as far right extremists, which is what we are discussing here. not all right wingers are die hard nationalists

It´s not the same, no, it´s a part of it, yes. It´s probably just bad translation as it would most likely be called something else in your country.

[Dezerte]

The greatest irony I find is that this anti-refugee sentiment is destroying their own country. Violence begets violence.

[Wells]

I think the story went like this: "A group of Syrian refugee in eastern Germany threatened three Syrian refugee children with a knife..." until proven otherwise...

Just assume the criminals were Syrian by default?