Proof that Mythic+ is a failure and Blizzard needs to adjust the system

[Jazzhands]

This just proves the exact opposite. The system is great, because any level can be rewarding, so there's actually a reason to do it. People who dislike RNG seem to forget that in WoD you are stuck at 835 ilvl if you couldn't raid the first tier until new raids and catch up mechanics hit in the next patch. Now you at least have a chance to progress, without having to raid.

People just want every single item they drop to be an upgrade, even though you get infinitely more drops than any other expansion. I'm 863 and have 1 piece of raid loot, that was never possible in any expansion.

[Eon Drache]

Pretty sure his "proof" is a mythic 2 item being on par with a mythic 6.

Dude! The Mythic 6 has no durability damage! Obviously better.

[Serissa]

1. It only create more elitism. "Ey, you are too bad for +7, go back to +2 with your low ilvl. You were in Method for 5 years? Who cares now your ilvl sucks, you suuuuck" (obviously I wasn't in Method but this is basically the mentality of some people).

Your past doesn't matter if you suck (for whatever reason) in present.

[Steelangel]

You know what makes Mythic+ better?

Running with a fucking guild group and not pugging. If you are pugging and people are jerks, then you just experienced what Mythic+ pugs actually are, an anonymous system by which people who never met before must work together for a goal in a way that the most obnoxious among them finds "efficient" without any good means of communication.

In my guild runs, we make fart jokes, laugh, and beat the timer and have a fun time.

Because games are fun.

[Deleted]

I heard a call of LFR 895... so here it is (not mine)
60ilvl + leach + socket proc... beat that!

[Iseeyou]

^holy shit thats a nice loot there.

[justinhalfout]

I heard a call of LFR 895... so here it is (not mine)
60ilvl + leach + socket proc... beat that!

Nice carrot, still not enough to persuade me to do LFR though.

[Raetary]

what exactly is the proof?
all i see that you got lucky on your mythic +2 item.

[plato13]

the only thing they need to fix about mythic+ is removing bonus chests and give you the option to upgrade your keystone by1 or by3. you cant even get into a +2 grp with ilvl850 because ppl are scared they might not get their bonus chests if you dont get gold.

[Teaon]

I heard a call of LFR 895... so here it is (not mine)
60ilvl + leach + socket proc... beat that!

this is more rare than legendary loots

[Deleted]

It's a useless system, hated it since day one. Two simple reasons.

1. It only create more elitism. "Ey, you are too bad for +7, go back to +2 with your low ilvl. You were in Method for 5 years? Who cares now your ilvl sucks, you suuuuck" (obviously I wasn't in Method but this is basically the mentality of some people).

2. It relies so extremly much on RNG. An unfair system that can reward you crazy much or leave you with non-wf/tf gear after hundreds of hours of work. RNG = ALWAYS a bad thing, just like the system.

Sounds like someone is salty for not cutting it.

[Frolk]

with more chances to get warforged gear from mythic5+


http://imgur.com/a/WVmHY

This post is proof why free speech is a bad thing

[Djuntas]

I just want to go back to TBC raid and 5 man model, maybe with a wotlk welfare twist. HARD as fuck 5 mans, with some heroic 5 mans being hard, but doable. Then later on as gear changes it gets easier.

Why change a model that worked...Who even cares for challenge modes or what they call it now days...

Then you target 1 5 mans for 1 loot, get it gz you're done. Was fun. Obviously some 5 mans are tank drops, so it gets a bit messy there, where you get no loot from hole dungeon if static drop...but w/e

[Tenjen]

i am failing to see anything wrong here that accounts for proof or failure or need for adjustment.

[Blackmist]

"I can't cope when other people are lucky" is not proof of anything.

[Deleted]

So your mad that a small margin super rng got you the same ilvl that a M+6 got you 100%.
Just check how many runs you will be able to pull it off again vs how many M+6.

[Deleted]

I swear that 'proof' on these forums is always a load of utterly pointless bollocks.

[Deleted]

Sounds like someone is salty for not cutting it.

Pretty much. He could always make his own group but I imagine that group might struggle.

Mythic 7 isn't meant to be easy anyway. The 2 affix dungeons do require communication, skilled dps, sync between healer and tank as well as some cc on occasion. Not what most random pugs are capable of on the fly sadly.

But the kicker is: that doesn't make it failed content. Just like HC/Mythic raids aren't failed content because most people won't clear them.

[Daystone]

2. It relies so extremly much on RNG. An unfair system that can reward you crazy much or leave you with non-wf/tf gear after hundreds of hours of work. RNG = ALWAYS a bad thing, just like the system.

How is it an unfair system when everyone is playing by the same rules? Also, by the general tone of your posts across several threads, it seems like you really, really hate Legion. -So much infact I don't really understand why you're still playing.

[Auxora]

This OP's post as nothing at all to do with mythic+, it's basically an incorrectly titled complaint about the warforged/titanforged system being unfair.

The wf/tf complaint is something I can kind of agree with though, since while it's luck it also means that if someone does lower/easier content enough times they'll eventually earn higher gear than the content should award. For example, I've got 850 titanforged from wq's before, like wq's that take 1 minute and longer to fly there than to do. Comparing that same 850 loot (with luck or just doing enough of them that one eventually rolls that way) with mythic+ or EN normal non-wf/tf gear that is 20x harder and more time consuming to get makes that system seem broken. I wouldn't mind seeing the wf/tf system toned down for wq's and heroic dungeon and lower content. For wq gear drops I can understand from a Blizz perspective that it's a tough spot they've created for themselves, since without wf/tf there isn't much incentive for 850+ geared toons to do gear dropping wq's without wf/tf, other than maybe to de or vendor it.