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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    A lot of democrats may think this is a good thing... But I do not think it is. Because it lets the Democratic Party run some pretty bad (content/policy wise) presidential nominees... It is akin to having a monopoly... it is never a good thing for the people to have only one "real" choice in a party(or anything else).
    Maybe some of the Republican Party will realize that being the Party of No isn't working. Maybe there will be some attempt to get back to doing things good for the country with some honest bipartisan effort.

    If the GOP does not realize that the fractures within the party are their own doing, then they can't learn from their mistakes and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    So my question to the GOP, from someone who wants to see a healthy 2 (or more) party system.

    How bad will Trump split the party after all of this is said and done? There was an analysis that I agreed with after the debate:

    The Debate's Biggest Loser Was the GOP
    Trump does just well enough to doom Republicans on November 8.
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-de...rticle/2004794

    A lot of democrats may think this is a good thing... But I do not think it is. Because it lets the Democratic Party run some pretty bad (content/policy wise) presidential nominees... It is akin to having a monopoly... it is never a good thing for the people to have only one "real" choice in a party(or anything else).

    My guess, is that the GOP suffers no matter if Trump wins or loses. Because he will either inject the xenophobic/bigoted alt-right into the party, permanently, or divide the GOP base, where without major changes the GOP will be irrelevant.

    If he loses he can go on to be the new ringleader (via media) of the alt-right movement, splintering the GOP (which is actually a good thing, IMO, the GOP needs to attract a better base) but in doing so, probably throwing a lot of the Republicans out of states that are becoming the bastions of the alt-right and people like Cliven Bundy.

    So what is your projection on what is going on within your party @Skroe
    It is a good thing. The republican party has gone utterly crazy and is completely out of touch with what people want. They are now a minority party composed of extremists and fanatics that want to impose their will on the majority and shape the country in ways that the vast majority are opposed to. The only reason they come even close to winning is because as fanatics and extremists they have an utterly devoted following whereas their political opponents are much less politically engaged. In their current shape they should not now or ever be allowed to wield power. That means the republican party needs to either die out or fundamentally reform. Reform will only happen if the GOP becomes politically irrelevant for so long that they no option but to accept reality and face up to what they have become, and if they still won't face that truth and reform then they will die out and something else will replace them. Either way the broad mass of people win.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Question: Has anyone else commented that Trump in the infamous tape admitted to failing to bed a married women - even after taking her furniture shopping?
    How will this failure influence his support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Well, they did have that retrospective after Obama won the second time. And they basically said they needed to be a more inclusive party...

    But than backtracked on that with Trump, and their platform... it is.... just... weird... If you know what you need to do, why do the opposite?

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    The problem is that as I noted, having only one sane party and the only real choice makes it a monopoly. They can get away with running horrible people, and because they are relatively better than the other guy/gal, they will win by virtue of not being completely nuts.

    But that should not be why you vote for someone. It should be because their ideas will work, or they have a substantive policy position, etc...

    Hillary may have that (she has a lot of experience, I won't deny that)... but other candidates, in the future may not... not when they don't have to... when you have a bunch of Jokers standing beside you as your rival, you come off looking good.
    Agreed. But the only way there is ever going to be two sane parties is if the insane one "dies" in some way. So there has to be that period of one party democratic rule to force that insane parties death.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Wiki leaks delivered more emails but ill wait for trumpets to go through them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    Question: Has anyone else commented that Trump in the infamous tape admitted to failing to bed a married women - even after taking her furniture shopping?
    How will this failure influence his support?
    He failed this one time but everyone misses a ball or two that's why we get 3 strikes. Am I role playing a Trump Redditer well enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    Question: Has anyone else commented that Trump in the infamous tape admitted to failing to bed a married women - even after taking her furniture shopping?
    How will this failure influence his support?
    What a beta male.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thogwar View Post
    What a beta male.
    I mean everyone is a beta before climbing to the ranks of alpha male. Jesus Christ the blind liberal under evolved cucks on this website. This is why pepe was right.

    This is sarcasm.
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    Fivethirtyeight just updated... And Dump has already lost 2.5% more on his chances of winning... Which brings it down to 16%. Since this is just the morning after the debate, that number is bound to drop even further..,

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    Quote Originally Posted by foofoocuddlypoopz View Post
    I mean everyone is a beta before climbing to the ranks of alpha male. Jesus Christ the blind liberal under evolved cucks on this website. This is why pepe was right.

    This is sarcasm.
    The sad part is, if you didnt add the sarcasm bit - you wouldve sounded like every single dumpster on this forum! >_<

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    "Well it's obvious that the Republicans think Trump's going to lose...and that may well be the case."

    -- Bill O'Reilly

    "This was a do or die debate. And I think that he died."

    -- John McCormick, Weekly Standard, on FOX

    NJ Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno breaks from her absentee boss Chris Christie to announce she's not voting for Trump

    "I'm with him until the bitter end...unless...Who knows? But I’m sitting here as his campaign manager. I’m sitting right here with you in the debate hall where he just performed beautifully."
    "So you’re worried about more shoes dropping?"
    "No, I didn’t say that. No, no, no. No. What I — no. I made a commitment, and I believe he would be a much better president.
    "

    -- Kellyanne Conway

    "The editors of Foreign Policy have never endorsed a candidate for political office -- until now"

    "Paul Ryan should spend more time on balancing the budget, jobs and illegal immigration and not waste his time on fighting Republican nominee"

    -- Donald Trump

    This was one of the responses:


    "I have paid federal income tax every year since 1944, when I was 13. (Though, being a slow starter, I owed only $7 in tax that year.) I have copies of all 72 of my returns and none uses a carryforward."

    -- Warren Buffett, successful businessman

    and my favorite:

    The Art of the Comeback: Donald Trump’s Debate Win Propels Him Toward White House

    "But not only did Trump survive; he thrived. In the chaotic environment—as he described it as “one on three,” with the moderators working to help Clinton far more than to help him—Trump found his groove again and soared to a much-needed debate victory. The win not only stops the bleeding from a rough patch of the campaign, but propels him forward into the week like a cannonball onto the homestretch, with one final debate to go in Las Vegas a week from Wednesday."

    -- Breitbart
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Actually it does matter. It gives political cover for en mass bolting of all the republican establishment. What we have had up to yet is a moderate trickle of republicans abandoning Trump. Since the head of the party just abandoned him the rest will feel party will feel no qualms in doing the same. What was a trickle is going to turn into a flood.
    It'll have an effect sure but the flood gates so to speak won't be opened until he says the words "No, I do not endorse Donald Trump for president of the united states". Until then going "I don't like him, and I won't support him... but I still endorse him for the position".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    The Art of the Comeback: Donald Trump’s Debate Win Propels Him Toward White House

    "But not only did Trump survive; he thrived. In the chaotic environment—as he described it as “one on three,” with the moderators working to help Clinton far more than to help him—Trump found his groove again and soared to a much-needed debate victory. The win not only stops the bleeding from a rough patch of the campaign, but propels him forward into the week like a cannonball onto the homestretch, with one final debate to go in Las Vegas a week from Wednesday."

    -- Breitbart
    Breitbart is quite reliable in their ability to deliver modern fantasy. I appreciate them for that.

    I wonder if Trump is going to call them biased given the ties they have to his campaign, or if it's alright in this instance : P

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    Dunno if this got posted, frankly I don't fancy searching the last 50 pages to find out.

    #boycottchina

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    Well, the numbers are in, and it turns out Trump actually got to speak more than Clinton throughout the debate. Trump spoke for about 40 minutes and 10 seconds, while Clinton spoke for about 39 minutes and 5 seconds.
    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...on-debate-time

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/10/politi...clinton-trump/

    So much for that moderation bias, eh Donny boy? haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    But you're forgetting that equal treatment for a spoiled man child is being biased against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    Nope, he's still got his victim hood on with the strings pulled tight so he can't see the mean outside world, probably. Per Breccia, Breitbart is already fully on board the "MODERATORS WERE BIASED!" train, which we can assume will be a continuing theme through the last debate given that Trump brought it up before the first debate was even held (erroneously, as he claimed Lester Holt was a Democrat when he is in fact a Republican...and then tried to excuse his lie by saying he was speaking without knowing what party Holt was registered under, as if that's a better answer?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dugraka View Post
    numbers mean nothing!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    "MODERATORS WERE BIASED!"
    I remain convinced he was told to push the limits until they slapped him, then claim bias.

    I doubt he was told "link your admitted adultery to ISIS" tho.

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    I see that Trump used to defend Bill and Hillary and called Bill's accusers "losers" and "unattractive".

    Donald Trump once described Bill Clinton’s women as unattractive losers

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.54a700b7e517


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shon237 View Post
    I see that Trump used to defend Bill and Hillary and called Bill's accusers "losers" and "unattractive".

    Donald Trump once described Bill Clinton’s women as unattractive losers

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.54a700b7e517

    I'm shocked. Look at my shocked face : |

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shon237 View Post
    I see that Trump used to defend Bill and Hillary and called Bill's accusers "losers" and "unattractive".

    Donald Trump once described Bill Clinton’s women as unattractive losers

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.54a700b7e517

    Yup, politics as usual. Look at Bernie, look at Hillary, Look at Obama, all talked shit about each other and now they are making out. Despite not being a career politician, Trump is no different.

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