Just got the legendary neck as a ret paladin and I've felt so devastated

[isnortwhey]

What is this icky stuff I stepped in? Oh, damn. It's casual entitlement.

i fucking love you and your quote

[Schlosh]

Getting a legendary that you will never equip is worse than not getting one at all, at least your bad luck protection is still intact.

An 895 legendary neck being worse than an 850 crafted epic is a very legit concern. Removing primary stats from rings and necks was a bad idea, should have just given them all three like cloaks. At least then the 45 ilvls of strength might have made it an upgrade.

This, absolutely this. When you get a bad legendary your bad luck protection streak is broken and you're stuck back at zero. It's literally worse to get a legendary that's no good then to not get one. So many people don't understand. I'd rather wait two months from now to get my BiS legendary instead of getting every other one between now and then and then not getting my BiS legendary until after Nighthold is out.

[Deleted]

I am provoked. Geting any kind of itemlevel 895 is a grand boost no matter what.
Stop crying and be pleased.
There is no way a 895 neck is worse than a 850 no matter what the stats are.
Eventually you will get more legendaries, and geting 2 of a kind is something Blizzard says they have fixed and shouldnt happen.

As a warrior, I got the sephur secret or w/e its called. And yes, its worse than a 835 ring I have. But at least I got one shit legendary out of the way.

[Magicpot]

I am provoked. Geting any kind of itemlevel 895 is a grand boost no matter what.
Stop crying and be pleased.
There is no way a 895 neck is worse than a 850 no matter what the stats are.
Eventually you will get more legendaries, and geting 2 of a kind is something Blizzard says they have fixed and shouldnt happen.

If the neck has the wrong secondary stats, no. For some classes a 840 neck with the right secondary stats is way better.

[omgacow]

If the neck has the wrong secondary stats, no. For some classes a 840 neck with the right secondary stats is way better.

I can think of maybe 2 dps classes who care so much about one secondary stat that an 895 is a downgrade from a 840

[chaoticenergies]

While it's true that simulations are not infallible, the current version of simcraft is, by all accounts, extremely accurate. I follow what simcraft says pretty religiously, and, well, I think my results speak for themselves.
Note my guild's mythic logs are private, except for the one Nythendra log that was made public, because someone was a derp. ^_^

Surprised no one's beaten my rank 1 normal Il'gynoth yet.

slow down there friend, your trailblazing too fast 4 us simple folk

[Deleted]

#devastated!

[dalborga]

The mistake might be on mastery. People tend to (and I'm guilty of that sometimes) think mastery is useless because it's the worst stat. Less useful, not useless. Ran some simulations on AMR and indeed I can't find a neck to beat the legendary in my case. Losing a bunch of haste bothers me, though, but that's personal preference on how higher haste feels to me (I like haste around 23% or so).

[Winterstrife]

What is this icky stuff I stepped in? Oh, damn. It's casual entitlement.

This quote is beautiful.

OT: Also, that isn't exactly the worst legendary, that stupid crowd control ring is, unless you've gotten that I think your QQ is unjustified.

[fangless]

It means nothing if an idiot runs a million sims. Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.

Can't quote stat weights, or pretend to know what stat is better than the other if you don't think simulations are important.

[snackfeat]

Can't quote stat weights, or pretend to know what stat is better than the other if you don't think simulations are important.

I did not say simulations are not important. But fact of the matter is that the legendary neck is absolute trash for ret.

[xChurch]

Worst thing about Legendaries seems like people getting them and complaining that they aren't good enough.

[Jtbrig7390]

Worst thing about Legendaries seems like people getting them and complaining that they aren't good enough.

Hell I just want one.

As long as it isn't the legendary's that go on ur fallower ill be happy lol.

[xChurch]

Hell I just want one.

As long as it isn't the legendary's that go on ur fallower ill be happy lol.

Well...at least I've got one of those, and 100 resources per mission is kinda nice. Depressing as fuck to have my follower get a Legendary before me though.

[Deleted]

OT: Also, that isn't exactly the worst legendary, that stupid crowd control ring is, unless you've gotten that I think your QQ is unjustified.

highly depends on the stat prio of your class.
as an example:
I play a shadow priest, if i get the CC ring i would still wear it, even though the effect isnt great / often times unuseable.
If i get the neck instead it just wanders straight to the bank since i dont play holy and its a downgrade compared to any 850 haste/crit neck.

So for some classes (like shadow priest) the neck IS the worst since it is the only legendary you wouldnt wear, unless you are fresh 110.

[judgementofantonidas]

Got my first legendary at 18 days 14 hours /played at 110 from withered j'im and it's the legendary neck. I don't like people complaining about legendaries but this one was genuinely the only one that isn't good for me, worse than my 850 crafted neck. Any of the others would have been an upgrade but no I get the only one that isn't thanks blizzard

Well. At least you did not get a legendary follower gear. I got that. And for all intents and purposes it seems to have used my bad luck protection. Because with 30 days at 110 when I do a /played and having not missed an emissary cache since the expansion went live I have yet to even sniff the package a legendary gear item comes in.

[Yizu]

What is this icky stuff I stepped in? Oh, damn. It's casual entitlement.

He just said he has 18 day 14hr played. Thats almost 10-12 hrs a day of playing since launch lol

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I am provoked. Geting any kind of itemlevel 895 is a grand boost no matter what.
Stop crying and be pleased.
There is no way a 895 neck is worse than a 850 no matter what the stats are.
Eventually you will get more legendaries, and geting 2 of a kind is something Blizzard says they have fixed and shouldnt happen.

When there is no primary stat on jewelries yes it is possible that an item 45 ilvls higher can be a downgrade or a 1% upgrade. As an MM hunter the Sephuz ring is only a 1% upgrade over the crafted ring.

There are classes who values one secondary stat more than primary stat and almost double value of the next secondary stat.

[Deleted]

I've probably ran more ret sims than anyone else on this forum, and I can 100% guarantee you that that 895 neck is an absolutely massive upgrade for you. Probably around a 10% damage upgrade.

I've seen some posts from you, mostly good and informative stuff but this? You must be trolling?
For the sake of clarity let's compare the stats right away:

Prydaz legendary neck (ilvl 895):
- 1397 Mastery
- 776 Crit
- 1 socket

Righteous Dawnlight Medallion of the fireflash, (crafted 850 neck
- 1101 Haste
- 734 Crit
- 1 socket


You are saying the Prydaz is a massive upgrade? You sir are massively wrong. Actually I just simmed both of them on my Ret, and the crafted neck IS better. But hey, you are have a top 1 parse on normal boss, obviously you know your shit.


It seems to be two kind of mindsets here;
The retards (who gets triggered because someone got a orange item, thinkin it's good per se)
The informative (who understand that this is actually a DPS loss compared to stuff you can buy on AH, and the other aspect is that your Bad Luck protection is broken)


Feel for your TS, hope you have better RNG in the future!

[Jtbrig7390]

--snip--

Nvm.

[mistahwilshire]

I don't know why everyone turns it in to a pissing contest.

The whole point is that it literally can be devastating to get a shit legendary. That shouldn't even be possible but it absolutely is.