why is there so much xenophobia in european countries?

[Shakadam]

Half of Europe doesn't permit gay marriage. They're the old way and no one but them think they matter anymore. We should redirect our focuses on to more progressive cultures like the Middle East and south east Asia.

I genuinely lol'd.

[Nynax]

It's xenophobic to think that others are xenophobic. There are even different aspects. People value different things. What is considered xenophobic in one part of the world can be non-xenophobic in other parts of the world. It's actually twisted sometimes - victim of repressions is accused for being non-tolerant. And in world of political correctness anti-hate speeches consist lots of hatred.

Group A vs Group B

Group A says "get out of my country B! We don't want your kind around here!"
Group B responds "WTF is wrong with you, A!? We just want to live our lives in peace!"

Thinking Group A is xenophobic does not automatically make Group B xenophobic.
You're making the same "it's racists to think someone racists" bullshit argument. And in both causes it takes a 2nd thought, that cannot be assumed to occur, for disgust to turn into what it's disgusted by.

[ati87]

Remind me what happened to most left wing countries in the past century would you?

We had unprecedented economic growth when governments...

And I'm talking about left wing countries not those governments that are so called ''left ''wing while the entire government is run like a right wingers wet-dream.

In the Netherlands right wingers love to talk about the pre Euro era, when everything was good, but you know what the good era we had a (center) left wing government and. However since the 2002 we had a (center) right wing government and the people that complain so what, its just coincidence when people talk about the good old days that they mention periods where their was a left wing government?

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Unlike, say, Americas, Europe wasn't formed by immigrants; various European countries have been historically dominated by certain native groups. Those native groups' self-determination has never really been challenged by very large influxes of immigrants, and as such it is very strong, which necessarily leads to certain arrogance. I wouldn't call it "xenophobia" though: too strong a word.

lets be honest and say that normally those countries where doing the ''challenging of natives'' when they decided to go to America and Africa and do whatever they wanted.

[Deleted]

If european countries strike you as overly xenophobic then you haven't been paying attention for a long time now...

[pmkaboo]

says the guy with a fence on his southern borders

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Group A vs Group B

Group A says "get out of my country B! We don't want your kind around here!"
Group B responds "WTF is wrong with you, A!? We just want to live our lives in peace!"

Thinking Group A is xenophobic does not automatically make Group B xenophobic.
You're making the same "it's racists to think someone racists" bullshit argument. And in both causes it takes a 2nd thought, that cannot be assumed to occur, for disgust to turn into what it's disgusted by.

so what you are saying is that person who accuses is always right?

[Deleted]

anyone that are not from the country seem to be subjected to xenophobia to some degree all the time, why?

I'm sorry but did you miss the "Build the wall, keep Mexicans out!" speach? Apart from the refugees trying to force Germany to adapt to their culture instead of accepting Germanies own traditions. Putin was right when he said "In Russia live Russians of Roman Christian religion. If you want to be a part of Russia you will adapt and not us. You need us. We don't need you." If you want to live with your traditions in a world where they are not accepted, do so, but don't force others. Don't beat up women you see dresses in short skirts or shout at couples kissing in a public place.

Other than that there is the fear of a terrorist cell forming. America doesn't care cause they are an "island." They can control every person who flys in and regulate them with green cards and visas. Most of European countries are in the union, border with 3 or more countries, where citicenz can basicly get into another country inside the EU without/with minimal border control. No one wants a terrorist war inside their own country or to endanged their own population. Alot of Europe felt the attacks and those who didn't are scared. The UN and NATO are holding back sending troops to hunt terrorist forces and they are doing so to Russia as well. The US has no interest of returning refugees home cause they are not running to the US and if Al Asads goverment falls they can buy their heating from Quatar and not Russia. While Al Asad rules he will never let that happen cause he has a feud with Quatar and is a good friend of Putin.

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Unlike, say, Americas, Europe wasn't formed by immigrants; various European countries have been historically dominated by certain native groups. Those native groups' self-determination has never really been challenged by very large influxes of immigrants, and as such it is very strong, which necessarily leads to certain arrogance. I wouldn't call it "xenophobia" though: too strong a word.

Yeah it has never been challenged... like.. you know.. Islamic invasions for over 1200 years.
There isn't any XENOphobia. We know who our enemy is.

[JohnBrown1917]

Compared to other countries?



lol

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Yeah it has never been challenged... like.. you know.. Islamic invasions for over 1200 years.
There isn't any XENOphobia. We know who our enemy is.

Whoah, calm down with the paranoia.

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Compared to other countries?



lol

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Whoah, calm down with the paranoia.

There's no paranoia. 548 documented battles.

[Deleted]

Not sure if you're saying the Irish are a threat to civilisation?

I was reffering to the general idea on how media portrays minorities and how we should treat them.

[purebalance]

Unlike, say, Americas, Europe wasn't formed by immigrants; various European countries have been historically dominated by certain native groups. Those native groups' self-determination has never really been challenged by very large influxes of immigrants, and as such it is very strong, which necessarily leads to certain arrogance. I wouldn't call it "xenophobia" though: too strong a word.

With exception to the first humans, there is no such thing as a native population. Almost every group of people has settled somewhere and almost every group of people has massacred another. The groups that are seen as natives today are the victors.

[sarahtasher]

Yeah it has never been challenged... like.. you know.. Islamic invasions for over 1200 years.
There isn't any XENOphobia. We know who our enemy is.

Yes, yes, yes...Obviously, the rabid ultranationalism of the 19th and 20th century was directed at muslims

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There's no paranoia. 548 documented battles.

And obviously, you are not finding odd at all that half of those battles took place in Spain.

Someone without with brainpower, AKA ''a SJW beta cuck'' coud think that they listed for some reason every single skirmish possible in Spain while forgetting key battles like Nicopolis, Varna, or Damiette.

[Deleted]

I'm from Sweden, I've been living in Finland for many years, never experienced any of that.

[zealo]

I think your confusing socialism with communism.

Social democracy and democratic socialism aren't the same thing, despite the names. The former is actually capitalistic in nature, but with strong welfare systems.

There is no country in Europe with actual socialism going on.

[sarahtasher]

I absolutely love also how ''Bill Warner PHD'' apparently forgot a minuscule, tiny, detail about the fall of Constantinople, in 1204, by agressive foreigners conquerors hellbent on pillaging places on worship and burn the town. Guess what the ''detail'' is ? Please ?

[zealo]

I absolutely love also how ''Bill Warner PHD'' apparently forgot a minuscule, tiny, detail about the fall of Constantinople, in 1204, by agressive foreigners conquerors hellbent on pillaging places on workship and burn the town. Guess what the ''detail'' is ? Please ?

The reasons for why Constantinople was sacked in the 4th crusade have more to do with Venice, can't blame that one on the Muslims entirely.

[sarahtasher]

The reasons for why Constantinople was sacked in the 4th crusade have more to do with Venice, can't blame that one on the Muslims entirely.

No, the Muslims have positively nothing to do with Crusaders sacking a christian city. And God, for people ''rescuing'' Eastern christians, the Crusaders were not working well with either the Basileus, his army or the locals.

[Jotaux]

I mean, one of the MAIN focuses in the Qu'ran is the push to convert every to Islam and wipe out anyone that isn't part of it. So if they didn't would they technically be "true Muslims" since people that half-ass their beliefs always seem silly to me.

Isn't that true of most religious texts?

[sarahtasher]

Isn't that true of most religious texts?

It's also blatantly innacurate, since even a cursory knowledge of Islamic conquests would show you that concerted attempts at mass conversion were the exception, not the norm-mostly because only non Muslims paid taxes...