Bob Dylan wins Nobel Prize in Literature 2016. :D

[Deletedaccount1]

His 'liveness' is a category error.
Indeed, This entire thing is a category error.

Yes it is.

[PixelFox]

But the big question is, will anyone be able to understand his acceptance speech?

[Coombs]

Utterly fucking disgusting. It's like giving Bill Nye the Nobel Prize in chemistry for changing the landscape of science.

[Chrysia]

Because no poet (and he is no poet) has ever been given the price for what amounts to a handful of poems.


Yes.
he is lacking in quantity and quality.

Quality is subjective.

He is absolutely not lacking in quantity.

Claiming he's no poet is farcical. His songs have just as much depth as those of many noteworthy poets. Perhaps not as much as the absolute best of the poets, but that's something that is highly, highly debatable.

[Deleted]

Because no poet (and he is no poet) has ever been given the price for what amounts to a handful of poems.


Yes.
he is lacking in quantity and quality.

A hand full of poems? The guy recorded 492 songs in over 50 years, and quality, you might not like the genre, but he certainly wrote some very very beautiful lyrics.

[THE Bigzoman]

But he's so bad....

[callipygoustp]

Long overdue imo.

Agreed.
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[Deleted]

Utterly fucking disgusting. It's like giving Bill Nye the Nobel Prize in chemistry for changing the landscape of science.

Any perticular poet you think had more impact with his/her lyrics ?

[Orlong]

Hes such a drug headed piece of shit. They hand Nobel prizes out like candy ever since they gave Obama a peace prize. You cant even understand a single lyric in his songs, hopefully you can at least read what he wrote

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Crimson flames tied through my ears,
Growin' high and mighty traps,
Pounced with fire on flaming roads,
Using ideas as my maps.
"We'll meet on edges, soon," said I,
Proud 'neath heated brow -
Ah, but I was so much older then;
I'm younger than that now.

Half-wracked prejudice leaped forth -
"Rip down all hate," I screamed.
Lies that life is black and white
Spoke from my skull. I dreamed
Romantic facts of musketeers
Foundationed deep, somehow -
Ah, but I was so much older then;
I'm younger than that now.

Girls' faces formed the forward path
From phony jealousy
To memorizing politics
Of ancient history
Flung down by corpse evangelists
Unthought of, though, somehow -
Ah, but I was so much older then;
I'm younger than that now.

A self-ordained professor's tongue
Too serious to fool
Spouted out that liberty
Is just equality in school.
"Equality": I spoke the word
As if a wedding vow -
Ah, but I was so much older then;
I'm younger than that now.

In a soldier's stance, I aimed my hand
At the mongrel dogs who teach -
Fearing not I'd become my enemy
In the instant that I preach -
My existence led by confusion boats:
Mutiny from stern to bow -
Ah, but I was so much older then;
I'm younger than that now.

Yes, my guard stood hard when abstract threats
Too noble to neglect
Deceived me into thinking
I had something to protect.
Good and bad, I define these terms -
Quite clear, no doubt, somehow -
Ah, but I was so much older then;
I'm younger than that now.

None of that makes any sense, nor is it interesting, much like his music. Looks like something a random word generator spit out

[belfpala]

Now this is a surprise, among all those book autors awarded in history ?

The only surprise is that it took this long. Just read some of his lyrics.

[Orlong]

By what measure is this garbage?

Bob Dylan is a widely respected songwriter. Is there something about lyricists that should exclude them from an award frequently granted to poets?

Yes, in order for something to be considered literature, it should take up more than 1 page of paper. Giving a literature award for song lyrics would be like giving an Oscar award to a good TV commerical

[belfpala]

None of that makes any sense, nor is it interesting, much like his music. Looks like something a random word generator spit out

What, particularly, don't you understand?

iLet's just go with...

"There must be some way out of here" said the joker to the thief
"There's too much confusion", I can't get no relief

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Yes, in order for something to be considered literature, it should take up more than 1 page of paper. Giving a literature award for song lyrics would be like giving an Oscar award to a good TV commerical

The shortest short story ever written is, "For Sale: Baby Shoes. Never Worn." Should Hemingway be denied?

[Paranoid Android]

Yes, in order for something to be considered literature, it should take up more than 1 page of paper. Giving a literature award for song lyrics would be like giving an Oscar award to a good TV commerical

Do you need to go Full Orlong for every subject?

Dylan received the Noble Peace prize for poetry and song writing. The bold, poetry, is the key part. There has been many Nobel laureates in poetry.

[ranzino]

The shortest short story ever written is, "For Sale: Baby Shoes. Never Worn." Should Hemingway be denied?

Hemingway wrote more than that ?

[Chrysia]

Yes, in order for something to be considered literature, it should take up more than 1 page of paper. Giving a literature award for song lyrics would be like giving an Oscar award to a good TV commerical

Very, very few poems take up more than one page of paper, and the very first Nobel Laureate in Literature was a poet.

[Blobfish]

Well deserved Bob Dylan
I have seen him in concert twice.
So much marijuana smoke at his gigs.

Have his lyrics book to his songs.
His lyrics kinda make sense to me.

Bob Dylan made the first ever Rap song, you know

Subterranian Homesick Blues

[Fencers]

Yes.
he is lacking in quantity and quality.

This is nonsense to suggest in the context of this thread.

Dylan is highly prolific- famously so. Quality is subjective, but among intelligentsia Dylan's writing has consistently been praised for decades at this point. So even if one person of no particular merit in the deciding of the arts thinks Dylan's writing lacks 'quality'; the body of critics, writers, musicians, artists and scholars that agree Dylan's work is of exceptional quality stands against the person of no particular merit in the decision of awards to the arts & humanities.

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Yes, in order for something to be considered literature, it should take up more than 1 page of paper. Giving a literature award for song lyrics would be like giving an Oscar award to a good TV commerical

Literature is simply written works people believe to be of high regard or/& quality of being.

A single word can be considered literature actually. There is no 'should' to it- the idea that literature is some "grand" thing is relatively modern and recent.

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Bob Dylan made the first ever Rap song, you know

Chuck Berry, Gil Scott Heron and a few others pre-date SHB. They were Dylan's influence for the song in cadence and song structure. Berry's "Too Much Monkey Business" is definitively a pop-song and charted. It is one of the oldest 'proto-rap' (Rap wouldn't develop in style till the 70s) commercial songs we have- it may be the only to have success before Cool Herc and the full development of Rap.

[Saladbar]

Not a fan of Dylan, but I'm OK with this. I may be uncultured, but I don't see much of a difference between a lyricist and a poet.

[Deleted]

Good stuff. Dylan is a giant. If you don't appreciate his work, you should get off the planet.

[Liftbrul]

Dylan is ok, but the choice is odd at best. Would hate for the literature prize go the way of the peace one; mocked and irrelevant.