Originally Posted by
xazrael
Hey guys,
WARNING: THIS IS A BITCHING POST, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR COMPLAINING, PLEASE LEAVE.
I am a member of a decently hardcore raiding guild. We don't raid too much, but we are expected to pull high dps (280k minimum on Mythic Ursoc).
Now, almost all of my friends in this guild, are artifact level 25+, Ilvl 870+, and almost all have legendarys.
I am sitting at artifact level 22, 865 Ilvl, and the stupid PVP legendary ring.
I am now starting to get sat on progression, because I am one of our lowest dps.
Past expansions, I would put all of my time into raiding, and doing raid strats. I rarely, if ever farmed mats, farmed world drops, or farmed heroic dungeons. However, I was consistently one of the better raiders in the West. (MOP and WOD, I had top 100 parses on most fights).
I have put the same amount of time into this expansion, however I am falling terribly short. And here are the reasons (and thus, the things wrong with this expansion)
1. RNGendarys. At this point, most hardcore raiders have gotten a legendary. However, whether you have gotten the best or the worst, severely impacts you. I got pretty much the worst. The ring has bad itemization for my class, and basically can't proc in raids. Another player on my server, got the boots. It is known that I am a better player than him (my guild sat him over me in WoD, and he left the guild). Just because he has the boots, he now parses higher than me, with equal Ilvl. Nothing I can do about it, except pray for RNG on my next legendary. Next, my raid leader, has gotten 4 Legendarys! 4!? Like how the actual fu......
And that doesn't help my case when he performs the same role as me (ranged dps)
2. Grindifact Power. In all past expansions, what could you do outside of raids to help you progress. Farm raid mats? Okay sure. Farm heroics for VP? No problem. Did dailies give you pretty much anything except some cosmetic items and maybe access to an enchant? No.
However, now outside of raids, you can improve your dps doing ANYTHING. WOOO sounds awesome right?! Maybe if it had a cap.
AP can be farmed infinitely, and depending on the class, can increase your dps by 2-5k each trait.
Just because I don't spend 10 hours a day on wow outside of raids, I am behind a potential 20-30k DPS. WTF.
3. RNGforged. I was playing in MoP when they introduced Thunderforged, and Warforged. I thought at the time, it was a decent idea. It did make us want to go back and kill bosses more often just to get a chance for a higher ilvl or a socket. Even in WoD it was fine.
But then someone thought, lets make all gear able to become Warforged, and not put a cap on it. Wouldn't it be great if you were questing, and the 835 trinket you wanted, ended up dropping as a 885? Sure, but even if that happens, raid stuff will be better right? Right?
No.
Many classes, a titanforge proc from a stat trinket, or trinket from a mythic dungeon, will be better than ANYTHING available in raid (same with relics).
This is literally the first time, I have ever seen hardcore guilds 7/7 mythic, and their raiders are using non raid gear. (3+ pieces non raid).
If it was just Mythic + gear, I wouldn't be complaining.
4. Mythic infinity. Now this one is less of a problem in my eyes, but definitely has its issues. I love the idea of Mythic +. Being able to make dungeons relevant during raids has always been a problem for blizzard. I like the affix's. I like the gear reward. Hell, I am even fine with the weekly chest reward being better than mythic raid gear (+10 gives you an 885). However, utilizing xrealm, and having a good friendbase, allows you to do an infinite amount.
You should be limited to just 1 groups keystones, or maybe disable xrealm for mythic +, or have a weekly limit (8 mythic + limit or something like that).
Most of my guild does 10+ mythic +s. I manage to usually get 5 done. (1 +10 minimum for the weekly)
I understand, this forum houses very few hardcore raiders. So maybe this falls on deaf ears. But all of this is definitely a problem for any hardcore raider, that still managed to have a life. Blizzard effectively is bridging the gap even further from casual to hardcore. In most hardcore guilds now, I guess I would be casual, even though I spend 20-30 hours a week on WoW.
Don't respond with "they are dumb for expecting that much", or "rewarding someone for playing more?! NO WAI!!".
This is a complaint post, and I am just seeing if other raiders are feeling the same way.