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  1. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Well, I may be reading the wrong news, but it appears to me that the people killing Muslims in the Middle East are... *gasp* other Muslims.
    Yes it's muslims killing muslims as it have been since the start. Every non muslim there is already long gone, either dead or ran away from that shit.

  2. #262
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    He's not very quick. Be patient with him.

    I mean seriously... he actually waltz right into that one.

    I wish that was my 9999'th post.
    Worry not, we all saw it happen anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    You assume i give 1 fuck about your childish elementary games.

    Get off middle east. STOP KILLING PEOPLE
    I'm confused now, are you talking to the US or Russia?
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  3. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    No. I wholeheartedly welcome a deeply antagonistic relationship with the War Criminal Vladmir Putin's rogue state / gas station. The world just isn't big enough for the both of us.
    The only thing that is big here is you'r EGO mister keyboard warrior, 99.999999% people in the world don't even know you exist

  4. #264
    Quote Originally Posted by Sodia View Post
    The only thing that is big here is you'r EGO mister keyboard warrior, 99.999999% people in the world don't even know you exist
    Phew, luckily 99.999999% of the people in the world aren't frequenting this forum. How about you?
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  5. #265
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    I'm confused now, are you talking to the US or Russia?
    It's only logical that a person who comes from a country that a few decades ago was responsible for the death of 10's millions of people to defend another country who is responsible for the death of a couple of millions. Those numbers should look like change to you thus why you are defending right?

  6. #266
    What I can see from your link is

    1/ it gives a wide range of possible casualties
    2/ you arbitrarily picked the highest of those numbers
    3/ and then you have chalked it all up to the Western Alliance even though we all know there has been bloodshed going on ever since on the ground even where the West does not have a single soldier within two governorates.

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    So he went from over 1 million, then to 2 million and now finally "10's of millions"? Ulmita pls. We have been over this. Check your fact-checking.

  8. #268
    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    What I can see from your link is

    1/ it gives a wide range of possible casualties
    2/ you arbitrarily picked the highest of those numbers
    3/ and then you have chalked it all up to the Western Alliance even though we all know there has been bloodshed going on ever since on the ground even where the West does not have a single soldier within two governorates.
    I said 1.3 to 2.0 millions, so w/e the report says.
    Other reports call for 4 millions
    Report includes only 3 countries. It doesn't include Yemen or Libya for example
    Accounts only the western "war on terror" victims.

    Even if its 1 million dead, it is still 1 million more dead than what should USA / UK /France killed.

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    Hollande has gone pretty nuts in the last few months. He is in the middle of a scandal now after releasing his book and spewing some nasty remarks. No chance at being re-elected so there's that, he is just doing some last dance for US.

  10. #270
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomyris View Post
    Hollande has gone pretty nuts in the last few months. He is in the middle of a scandal now after releasing his book and spewing some nasty remarks. No chance at being re-elected so there's that, he is just doing some last dance for US.
    To be replaced by "Sarkozy the American" or very unlikely, She-Hitler.

    Yeah things are really going pear shaped for us.

  11. #271
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    Even if its 1 million dead, it is still 1 million more dead than what should USA / UK /France killed.
    But that is the point. Whatever the body count is, Western armies have not killed as much. Combat operations lasted 42 days. Since then - and it has been 13.5 years -, it's Muslims killing Muslims in stupid sectarian violence. Even if you account for drone strikes, it will still not match the swath of destruction in the wake of ISIS. And then we have not even mentioned other war crimes, like sex slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    But that is the point. Whatever the body count is, Western armies have not killed as much.
    O.o all of those people would not have died* had the west not invaded and spent years waging a war.

    *of course they could still have died in other ways.

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    One mans civilian is another mans terrorist. Seriously, there is even a term "moderate rebel" which means "terrorist who our government is ok with".
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  14. #274
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    This coming from a guy that can distinguish between terror sponsor nations and those who fight back.
    So you're saying that you can't? Well I'm not surprised.

  15. #275
    Quote Originally Posted by Sodia View Post
    The only thing that is big here is you'r EGO mister keyboard warrior, 99.999999% people in the world don't even know you exist
    I'm impressed that 71.25 million know who he is!

    The whole Syria thing is another good example of the West screwing things up and a push to develop something other that oil dependent industries

  16. #276
    Btw this book Should We Fear Russia? By Dmitri Trenin Should be an interesting read, parts of it touches on how the Kreml gambled with the European goodwill towards them in regards to Ukraine. How Russia have put themselves in an awkward position where they're dependent on China, an unsentimental nation who like the US, does not view Russia as an equal. The biggest danger as he views it, is the disintegration of the Russian state, which he does not think will happen as peacefully as it did with the USSR (I gotta admit it's striking how much @Skroe have also been talking about this situaiton). He does not view the Russian military as a strenght, but their determination is.

    Anyhow, I'm sure the putinistas will label it as evul propaganda by an ex Russian officer, but I'm guessing it'll be an interesting read who does not live in Ulmitas bubble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    It was an exaggeration just to emphasize that killing 2 million Muslims in 10 years is not tolerable. And they are still going strong killing every day people in middle east. Thats the problem
    American presidents have killed 2 million Muslims in 10 years? I have this picture in my head, of George and Barack, stealthily running through Muslim cities, slaughtering everyone on their way:



    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    But that is the point. Whatever the body count is, Western armies have not killed as much. Combat operations lasted 42 days. Since then - and it has been 13.5 years -, it's Muslims killing Muslims in stupid sectarian violence. Even if you account for drone strikes, it will still not match the swath of destruction in the wake of ISIS. And then we have not even mentioned other war crimes, like sex slavery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Btw this book Should We Fear Russia? By Dmitri Trenin Should be an interesting read
    Probably, but perhaps the average western sheep are too lazy to read books, so for them its better stick with tabloids news about "evul russiah".

  19. #279
    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Btw this book Should We Fear Russia? By Dmitri Trenin Should be an interesting read, parts of it touches on how the Kreml gambled with the European goodwill towards them in regards to Ukraine. How Russia have put themselves in an awkward position where they're dependent on China, an unsentimental nation who like the US, does not view Russia as an equal. The biggest danger as he views it, is the disintegration of the Russian state, which he does not think will happen as peacefully as it did with the USSR (I gotta admit it's striking how much @Skroe have also been talking about this situaiton). He does not view the Russian military as a strenght, but their determination is.

    Anyhow, I'm sure the putinistas will label it as evul propaganda by an ex Russian officer, but I'm guessing it'll be an interesting read who does not live in Ulmitas bubble.
    I took a quick look at a few of his articles, and other then being liberal leaning (well, it's Carnegie Endowment for International Peace Moscow Centre, who would have guessed it is liberal-leaning!) he seems to know his stuff.

    I would call what he writes "sober analysis", without neither "Haha, we'll CRUSH those Americans!" nor "Russian army is rusting and totally ineffective, war will be over in days". I might disagree with him on motivations of either side, but i don't disagree with his projections of what could happen.

  20. #280
    Quote Originally Posted by May90 View Post
    American presidents have killed 2 million Muslims in 10 years?
    Quite a bit of people died in the last few decades because of USA. Some reports claim the total death toll since 2003 in just Iraq is more than half a million.

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