No this is wanting to achieve higher things. Like why shouldn't the healer do dmg? Most bosses have none to very low healing needed (m+ mostly).
Also for boosting having the healer do nice dps is kinda needed to boost +3 chests on 6,7,8. Because you can't count on the player you're boosting to do it.
are those real numbers or exxagerated ?I play a holy paladin in Mythic+ and at levels 2-6 I do maybe 300k dps overall and about 700-800k dps on bosses.
700-800k ST DPS burst only or sustained ?
is there some guide/tips for Holy pala dps ?
As a Monk Healer i'd put Resto Druid on top of everything...
I personally think it depends on the affix, your tank, and your playstyle.
Take NA last week. We had that awful necrotic debuff. SLT from a shaman can completely negate high stacks for a short period of time. I believe hpal's can also bop this. Resto druids can talent bear affinity and taunt mobs.
I was told for a lot of beta that rsham would be terrible with the Overflowing debuff, but I generally maintain sub 10% overhealing without trying so it was not that bad. I can see where it could go wrong with rdruid hots or disc atonement.
If I had to pick, I would say hpal/disc are probably the strongest at 2-6. There isn't much group damage unless people are messing up, so their tank healing+dps is handy at quick runs.
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I agree with drood being best for overflow, especiially since their heals are small and frequent, but this is about 2-6 anyways
a main reason for that though is there's a bug with crit and overflowing where it does like 4-6x a crit's overhealing, so sometimes as a shaman or holy priest you leave shields on people for like 600k, and I've read reports of holy paladins putting 4M overflow on their tank off 1 holy shock crit, but I've yet to see it
regardless though it's still probably the easiest +7 affix, even with it being kind of buggy
And if the DPS have "learned how to do dps" you think you are entitled to continue with your suboptimal playstyle? Interesting.
@Thread in general: I'm biased as I'm currently maining resto shaman, but it's hard to argue with the utility we bring. AoE stun, interrupt, Spirit Link Totem offering insane saving power for tanks (even through Necrotic!).
Healer effectiveness really depends on group make up.
If group doesn't have a Lust, then guess which healer I'll prefer? Shaman.
If group doesn't have an AoE stun, then guess what? Monk or Shaman pls
If there are a lot of melees, then I'll want a healer with good stacked heals like Sham/Dru/Pally
But MOST of all, the player is 10000000000000X what makes a healer good or bad, not the class they are playing. I'll take a great Disc (who is right now ranked lowest for Mythic+) over a shitty Holy Pally (who is ranked at top) any day.
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Now this I'd like to see. Any proof? Vid or log?
I have never seen a H pally out DPS an actual DPS on a fight (unless that DPS is in shit gear or a newb)
On my MW main in 665 gear, I can maybe pull 60k DPS on bosses while healing. Depends on the boss fight in question, but if I can break 50k, I'll be satisfied.
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"It's not what we don't know that gets us into trouble; it's what we know for sure that just ain't so." ~ Mark Twain
"The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time" ~ Jesus of Nazareth
"把它放在我的屁股,爸爸" ~ Dalai Lama
Depends. I took moonkin affinity. I can switch to the chicken and spam stuff but it takes.mana and theyre also severly limiting the amount of shit i can cast while in moon chicken. Yea if everytbing is goiing smoothly but i might need that mana later. Wrath is the only freebie.
Aw, I do catweaving. Feral ends up building mana while you dps since it uses energy. I just bind swiftmend to one of the cat bars. It pops me out with the big instant heal, then I can WG or RG with SotF, use Essence and Cenarion Ward, refresh my Moonfire and Sunfire, and get back into cat form. Unless people are taking tons of extra damage or random damage like in NL, you can maintain a high dps.