Republican Election 2016 - Donald Trump Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Aggrophobic]

Where is the proof of this?

It's always the Russians' fault isn't it?

No it's not always Russians fault but it's their work here.
Good on them though. They either get a puppet in the white house or they at the very least outsmarted the US intelligence agencies.

It doesn't matter how this election ends, Putin will come out looking better in any case.

Wikileaks lost all credibility though but I guess that could be seen as a win for Russia as well.

[DeadmanWalking]

"Google it" isn't an argument. Give an actual source or get out.

Heres a hint, Google leads to sources. I know, wicked right? Your the one asking a question, why not look for your own sources rather than just taking Trumps word for it? Now if I came here and said, "Donald Trump murdered teen girls at Miss Teen USA" I would have to give sources to prove it wasn't a lie, if I come here saying "Did Donald murder teen girls at Miss Teen USA?" somehow turning it into a question means everyone else has to provide evidence to disprove me?

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You know we'd have a better conversation if you weren't more intent on being insulting than you were on conveying your point.

I'll agree on the first sentence in theory - hes got just words so ok ya that's fair.

But I'm going to add caveat that campaign words only ever matter during a campaign and that politicians rarely ever own them during their term.

In the words of a certain somebody, adding to the debt was unpatriotic and that person was going to reduce it.

How'd that work out?

So ya, fair point - however when there are actual actions to consider those actions tip the scale.

*eats popcorn while watching Zombergy entertain us by doing spine shattering logic backflips to try and make the stupid comment fit a world based on reality, "Please do go on, I am sure you will eventually make this fit the Yakety Sax song playing in your mind."

[Fargus]

Heres a hint, Google leads to sources. I know, wicked right? Your the one asking a question, why not look for your own sources rather than just taking Trumps word for it? Now if I came here and said, "Donald Trump murdered teen girls at Miss Teen USA" I would have to give sources to prove it wasn't a lie, if I come here saying "Did Donald murder teen girls at Miss Teen USA?" somehow turning it into a question means everyone else has to provide evidence to disprove me?

I'm asking for evidence. Do you know why? Because I don't believe most of the things coming from Clinton's mouth. If you make a claim, especially from someone like that, you need to back it up. Google can throw up a lot of things from dubious places, and a lot of hits might well be from opinion pieces. Which is precisely why I am asking for specific sources.

If you know what you're saying is absolutely correct, then you should have zero problem providing sources instead of being lazy.

[DeadmanWalking]

No it's not always Russians fault but it's their work here.
Good on them though. They either get a puppet in the white house or they at the very least outsmarted the US intelligence agencies.

It doesn't matter how this election ends, Putin will come out looking better in any case.

Wikileaks lost all credibility though but I guess that could be seen as a win for Russia as well.

The amazing spin of reality here is suddenly Republicans are applauding the existence of Wikileaks when they use to be solidly against them as traitors and liars and Liberals are suddenly hating on them when they onced called them an example of truth of justice, a useful tool to uncover corruption in Government.

[Dextroden]

The amazing spin of reality here is suddenly Republicans are applauding the existence of Wikileaks when they use to be solidly against them as traitors and liars and Liberals are suddenly hating on them when they onced called them an example of truth of justice, a useful tool to uncover corruption in Government.

And Democrats used to love Wikileaks until they started trying to point out their bullshit. Very funny, huh?

[Felya]

The FBI has been pretty vocal about it. And they do kind of work as a team.

Until Trump is saying it, it's all a conspiracy...

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And Democrats used to love Wikileaks until they started trying to point out their bullshit. Very funny, huh?

I'm guessing you are the sort of cuck that would clap along to someone trying to fuck with you?

[Dextroden]

Until Trump is saying it, it's all a conspiracy...

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I'm guessing you are the sort of cuck that would clap along to someone trying to fuck with you?

People that are supposedly against corruption should have no problem with a third party doing a probe. Or are they to be trusted blindly?

[Noxx79]

People that are supposedly against corruption should have no problem with a third party doing a probe. Or are they to be trusted blindly?

You mean like Wikileaks? You trust them blindly?

[Dextroden]

You mean like Wikileaks? You trust them blindly?

No. They've been rather self absorbed recently. But it's the same reason you should see something is up on the Democrats side.

[Venant]

You mean like Wikileaks? You trust them blindly?

Government officials and their financial backers potentially have billions of dollars as a motive to obstruct the truth, what motive does Wikileaks have to lie about their information? Considering how many governments seem to be after wikileaks they would actually be putting themselves in great danger if they released something that could solidly be disproven.

[zenkai]

And his words are worse than her actions.
I've said it many times before: With any decent candidate Hillary would lose.

Instead we have Trump claiming that nobody has more respect for women then he does.

A guy who talks like an asshole is worse than someone who is incompetent and shady?

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Government officials and their financial backers potentially have billions of dollars as a motive to obstruct the truth, what motive does Wikileaks have to lie about their information? Considering how many governments seem to be after wikileaks they would actually be putting themselves in great danger if they released something that could solidly be disproven.

Wikileaks was truthful when they released Palins email, but liars when they released DNC's, he's obviously biased.

[TrumpIsPresident]

*eats popcorn while watching Zombergy entertain us by doing spine shattering logic backflips to try and make the stupid comment fit a world based on reality, "Please do go on, I am sure you will eventually make this fit the Yakety Sax song playing in your mind."

You haven't contributed anything worth while in this entire exchange.

I sit here and read everything people type to me because they took the time to do it.

Breccia argued his point well and I thought it was a fair one to make.

You on the other hand are just shit talking, and when you're not shit talking you're making >10 word piss-off responses to long well thought out posts.

Its boring you should do better because I hate to ignore people.

[Dug]

A guy who talks like an asshole is worse than someone who is incompetent and shady?

Well a 960 million dollar loss is incompetence, and business men are by nature shady.

[cocoapuffs]

Well a 960 million dollar loss is incompetence, and business men are by nature shady.

but not trump

he knows more about everything than anyone ever has

[DeadmanWalking]

You haven't contributed anything worth while in this entire exchange.

I sit here and read everything people type to me because they took the time to do it.

Breccia argued his point well and I thought it was a fair one to make.

You on the other hand are just shit talking, and when you're not shit talking you're making >10 word piss-off responses to long well thought out posts.

Its boring you should do better because I hate to ignore people.

It is hard to contribute to a conversation when the conversation includes someone who says, "It's just words." When someone uses mindless statements it is hard to take that person serious. Sorry but you fucked up in a serious way and now you are going to have to deal with the consequences of not being allowed to take part in serious conversation.

It may of been just words but his words were about what his actions are going to be, you know assuming he wasn't just lying to you to get you to put him in office.

Personally I feel bad for you guys, your gullibility made you waste a presidential election on a con man who didn't have a chance to win because he refused to let his cabinet do a personal history risk assesment on him. Had they done that they would of told him upfront that his personal history would make him unelectable but then he wouldn't get to try to be president. I can assure you that had you picked any other of the 14 people up there with him in the nominee debates we wouldn't be talking about 'Grabbing them by the pussies' or making cameo's in porn. BUt that is what happens when you live as a moraless playboy billionaire and then suddenly want people to believe you are clean as the driven snow when there is a presidency that you want.

Next time pick a candidate with less skeletons in their closet. You guys could of continued playing the Moral Majority card instead of the 'Unless it is our guy, then it is okay." card.

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Well a 960 million dollar loss is incompetence, and business men are by nature shady.

Like when they say, "I figured out how to save us 10 billion a year and all we have to do is fire all our American production employees to avoid paying minimum wage, benefits, retirement, health care plans and safe workspaces. Then we have the communist Chinese child labor do all the work for $1.25 an hour with 14 hour/7 days work weeks with no benefits. It will be cheaper to ship it back all the way from China than to produce it here and sell it here. Now I would like that 200,000 christmas bonus so I can get my wife those fake tits and the swiss chalet I always wanted."

[Dug]

Like when they say, "I figured out how to save us 10 billion a year and all we have to do is fire all our American production employees to avoid paying minimum wage, benefits, retirement, health care plans and safe workspaces. Then we have the communist Chinese child labor do all the work for $1.25 an hour with 14 hour/7 days work weeks with no benefits. It will be cheaper to ship it back all the way from China than to produce it here and sell it here. Now I would like that 200,000 christmas bonus so I can get my wife those fake tits and the swiss chalet I always wanted."

Woah hey now aren't you forgetting? That's totally not on us business men! Of course we're going to take advantage of the backwards system, of course. You can't just expect people to be decent human beings when money is on the line! It's up to Hillary Clinton and solely her to keep us in check! Cause if she won't do it then I'll run for presidency myself and make sure I make less profit!

[DeadmanWalking]

And Democrats used to love Wikileaks until they started trying to point out their bullshit. Very funny, huh?

Oh I'm sorry, do you have Attention Deficit Disorder where you can't make it to the end of a paragraph where I specifically said that?

The amazing spin of reality here is suddenly Republicans are applauding the existence of Wikileaks when they use to be solidly against them as traitors and liars and Liberals are suddenly hating on them when they once called them an example of truth and justice, a useful tool to uncover corruption in Government.

Or can you just not handle it when both sides are equally disparaged and you have to add one more Demo insult to make it fit your opinions?

[Breccia]

Well a 960 million dollar loss is incompetence, and business men are by nature shady.

Exactly. Trump has a long string of failures behind him which he's managed to profit off of at the expense of others -- workers laid off, stockholders left with pennies, "university" and "charity" both under investigation, and wives plural he's cheated on. He has not shown sufficient evidence of success that he should be trusted with more power. Hey, where are those tax returns? Remember the time he lost $800 million dollars, over 20% of his total net worth? I remember it like it was 2015...

The fact that he has zero political experience was also pretty significant. The fact that I disagree with many of his policies (lower taxes on the rich while cutting health care for the poor, plus his attacks on the First, Fourth, and Fourteenth Amendments), and some of the others are just stupid (his proposed trade plans for Mexico and China which are self-contradictory) makes the decision that much easier. Plus he said he wasn't going to accept the election results unless he won...which, even if he walked it back later, is, indeed, "horrifying". That shit wasn't a flubbed line, and that shit wasn't a joke. He meant that. And that's past "extremely alarming" and balls-deep into "pre-dictator". The fact that he's also a sexist, racist, greedy scumbag who is clearly in this for himself is icing on the cake, but hardly necessary at this stage in the game. The hot mic tape, while hilarious, was irrelevant from my point of view -- there was a zero percent chance I was going to vote for him.

[cubby]

Meh, I think it's okay that some state courts aren't lifetime appointments but are for certain length terms. Should be appointed though, not elected like some are.

Federal judges are all lifetime appointments, unless impeached, moved (to say, appeals), advanced (to supreme), or retired though.

I think the fed system should be emulated at the state level - at least for supreme and appellate courts. And nominated rather than elected, for either set terms that are not extended or for life.

[Breccia]

By the way, here's a conservative's take on the GOP after this election.

Look at the facts: Donald Trump is not a Republican. He has not consistently advocated or defended any of our principles, including protecting unborn human life, the Second Amendment, exceptional American leadership abroad, free speech or economic opportunity. He is essentially a third-party independent populist who exploited a five-car pileup in the “establishment” lane of the GOP to secure the nomination.

Voters understand that. It’s why–at this point–down-ballot Republican candidates are generally running ahead of Trump in the polls, especially in statewide races, even as Democrats push the limits of facts and logic trying to tie GOP candidates to him.