Does not preclude the fact that you are heading into one.
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You know the Canadian states didn't even let their executive negotiate on their behalf? (oh and they have internal trade barriers).
Yes, wouldn't it be great if the EU could just run roughshod over the member countries?All because of half a dozen Walloonys. Far better to just take the North Korea option.
1 - Canada does not have states.
2 - There are no 'trade barriers' between Canadian Provinces. This is speaking as someone who is involved at a high level in interprovincial AND transborder (Canada/US) trade.
You're entitled to your own opinions, but you aren't entitled to your own facts.
13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"
Yes forgive me for using the wrong nomenclature.
The Canadian economy is losing billions a year because of interprovincial trade barriers, a new Senate report warns after a promised March deadline for a national deal has quietly passed without any explanation from Ottawa or the provinces.
Titled “Tear down these walls,” the report by the Senate committee on banking, trade and commerce states that the failure of negotiations to date is “baffling” and “unacceptable.”
At issue is the fact that businesses and workers face different rules in different provinces when it comes to where products can be shipped and sold. There are also long-standing problems related to services and the professional qualifications an employee needs to obtain when switching provinces.
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Want me to dig up the times the UK decided to fuck things up solely because it was politically convenient domestically?
And again, would you be in favor of a system where the EU could just ignore something some idiotic member-state says because it has an electorate stuck in the past/ delusions of grandeur?
Oh an in an awesome twist, Canada has its own provinces that are being Uppity.
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UK 'has 50% chance of slipping into recession within 18 months
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No I get it already. 99% of the EU want a free trade deal with Canada, 1% of the EU don't, so it fails. I can see how you won't accept the validity of 52% in favour of Brexit in the UK. If how you feel is representative of the EU then you wouldn't be happy if 99.9% of the UK voted for Brexit.
13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"
well whatever - the UK has cut interest rates and launched QE to stave of a recession.
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No my point is that you brexiters complain the EU is unable to negotiate trade treaties one second after you complain the EU has 'stolen' your sovereignty.
Those positions are not mutually consistent.
And my only complaint about the Brexit vote was that it in effect was a lie (it should have said, do you want to leave the EEA not the EU).
other than that i suppose i think you people saying that 72% of people voting is high is a tad tragic, it is only 'high' because you have a shitty voting system to compare it too.
From where I sit ours is a far better system than if the EU proposes something and 99.9999% agree it should happen, yet Mrs Lederhosen in the Austrian Alps says no I don't like it, or Mrs Waffle in Wallonia doesnt want it, it can't happen and 99.99999% of the EU suffer because of her.
That's not any kind of democracy, and basically whats happened with CETA. It's also why the UK should forget about any "soft Brexit" and just GTFO.
13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"
And that might be a valid argument if the EU was a federation but it isn't.
the doesn't have an 'election system' in that sense.
I would be perfectly fine with having the commission negotiate and the EU parliament vote.
Its just that some people think that would undermine the sovereignty of the memberstates.
Is that really the best you can come up with? Godwining it? Maybe I just don't like seeing idiot politicians who don't give a shit about their own countrymen and more care about being seen as a humanitarian at the costs of their own peoples lives. Little known fact, cultures as backwards as certain middle eastern ones don't tend to progress suddenly just because they flock to a country like denmark/germany, all the shit just comes with them. And the ones who suffer are the everyday men and women of those countries, not the politicians themselves.
#boycottchina
13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"
13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"
Yeah...because the UK was never a first world country without the EU right? lol Silly kids.
America isn't in the EU and we don't need to be involved in that quagmire. The UK doesn't need tor be in the EU either. This was a kick in the dick to the elitist globalists that want to move the 3rd worlds population into the 1st world. The UK likely saved itself. This is just scare tactics from the Elites.
Making it legally binding?
Because the referendum is not.
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Take your own advice, please
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Then it should be no hassle to simply make it legally binding by having the parliament vote on it and "represent the electorate" by said vote.