Football Season 2016/2017

[Tommy T]

Believe it or not, there's a lot of Yawnited fans who blame Fergie.

[Deleted]

Are you suggesting they get years and years in the current footballing climate? Sorry but it's not the 60s anymore

So then what does this quote mean?

Dunno why you're giving a club shit for actually giving thier managers time and money to build a team.

[RobertoCarlos]

So then what does this quote mean?

Because I dissagree with you that LVG and Moyes didnt have a fair go at the helm.

[Deleted]

Because I dissagree with you that LVG and Moyes didnt have a fair go at the helm.

I never stated that they weren't given a fair go, I stated that they weren't given enough time to build a team.

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It's not an excuse, it's fair criticism. The team hasn't recovered, the amount he was involved in the organisation and running for 20+ years is being shown here and now.

So what, another couple of seasons and maybe another manager and we can stop blaming Fergie?

[RobertoCarlos]

I never stated that they weren't given a fair go, I stated that they weren't given enough time to build a team.

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So what, another couple of seasons and maybe another manager and we can stop blaming Fergie?

They had transfer windows and money. Thats pretty much as good as it gets

[Deleted]

They had transfer windows and money. Thats pretty much as good as it gets

So Mou to be sacked next year then?

[RobertoCarlos]

So Mou to be sacked next year then?

If he doesn't get top 4 this year I'm sure people will be chanting that.

He should be getting top 4 as well after the money spent

[Northern Goblin]

It's not about blaming Fergie.

It's saying the club has been unable to move on since he retired. That's not blaming him, it's blaming the organisation.

[Deleted]

It's not about blaming Fergie.

It's saying the club has been unable to move on since he retired. That's not blaming him, it's blaming the organisation.

Your transfer policy has been garbage. Gap filling instead of building a team.

[durrtygoodz]

Your transfer policy has been garbage. Gap filling instead of building a team.

But hey at least they sell shirts.

[Nerph-]

One could definitely argue Moyes wasn't given enough time, but then he's not exactly a top manager to attract top players. LVG however definitely had enough time, and borked it imo. He sold players he shouldn't have (Chicharito for example).

Frankly it all went to shitters having to build a new team after half the players either left or got sold. It's still a work in progress.

That said, the current team on paper should be performing better than they are.

[RobertoCarlos]

One only needs to look at how Sunderland are doing to judge if sacking Moyes was the correct decision.

They havent won in the premier league since last year

[draykorinee]

Your transfer policy has been garbage. Gap filling instead of building a team.

I would agree with this. £90 million on Pogba will be the biggest waste of money in the history of football.

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I would agree with this. £90 million on Pogba will be the biggest waste of money in the history of football.

Don't forget Di Maria.

[durrtygoodz]

Pogba on the Ballon Dor shortlist :L

[draykorinee]

Don't forget Di Maria.

Yeah, very true, had a shocker in the transfer window the last few years.

[Demoncrash]

This was a fun read.

[Jessicka]

One could definitely argue Moyes wasn't given enough time, but then he's not exactly a top manager to attract top players. LVG however definitely had enough time, and borked it imo. He sold players he shouldn't have (Chicharito for example).

Frankly it all went to shitters having to build a new team after half the players either left or got sold. It's still a work in progress.

That said, the current team on paper should be performing better than they are.

Given what Moyes has managed subsequently, it's pretty clear that he was not a good choice. He took over a League winning side, and brought in Fellaini at a grossly over-inflated price. Then finished outside CL qualification. He did bring us Mata though, so there is that.

LvG was given a lot of money and two years, and failed to improve on that. It wasn't just a matter of letting good players go, but signing the likes of Memphis and Di Maria being spectacularly bad.

I'm still not entirely sold on Mourinho. I know a lot of fans aren't. But we're 9 games in to the league season, even Sunderland aren't calling for Moyes's head just yet.

[draykorinee]

I try to rack my brain now to remember what my inital thought was with Moyes, can't remember if I was optimistic or not.

[Northern Goblin]

I try to rack my brain now to remember what my inital thought was with Moyes, can't remember if I was optimistic or not.

I was woefully unimpressed and wanted Klopp.