Obamacare is awesome...if you are here ilegally

[Luxxor]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-24-17-03-27

If you are a citizen you have to pay for expensive healthcare and deal with insane premium increases.

If you are here illegally you get it for freeeee!

Working as intended!

[Cybran]

Flood the country with illegals. Bribe them with free phones and welfare. Loosen voting laws.


Boom, you break the two party system. Obama is killing democracy in America.

[Luxxor]

Flood the country with illegals. Bribe them with free phones and welfare. Loosen voting laws.


Boom, you break the two party system. Obama is killing democracy in America.

2 party system isnt democracy...

[Celista]

Flood the country with illegals. Bribe them with free phones and welfare. Loosen voting laws.


Boom, you break the two party system. Obama is killing democracy in America.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama...ry?id=41715661

According to governmental data, the Obama administration has deported more people than any other president's administration in history.

In fact, they have deported more than the sum of all the presidents of the 20th century.

President George W. Bush's administration deported just over two million during his time in office; and Obama’s numbers don’t reflect his last year in office, for which data is not yet available.

Thanks, Obummer.

[Underverse]

Wait I don't understand, I read the linked article and illegals were never mentioned?

[Damajin]

And with the lax border enforcement and stonewalling that DOJ has engaged in the amount of people he deports is irrelevant since that situation guarantees they'll be able to get back in, as we see with these serial cases of people entering illegally 10+ times.

The deportation numbers would be valid if the border were being properly enforced and the judicial system were acting appropriately but it isn't, and that's all due to Obummer and his administration wanting their cake, your cake and my cake and wanting to eat it too. He gets to say he's tough on deportation when called out on it and he gets to appease the open borders shills in his base and internationally.

[GennGreymane]

Wait I don't understand, I read the linked article and illegals were never mentioned?

You expect people to read their sources?

[Slybak]

Wait I don't understand, I read the linked article and illegals were never mentioned?

That's because the article is about the invisible "Schrodinger's Immigrant," a person who is simultaneously taking everyone's job and living off the government teat because they're too lazy to work.

[Celista]

That's because the article is about the invisible "Schrodinger's Immigrant," a person who is simultaneously taking everyone's job and living off the government teat because they're too lazy to work.

I needed a name for the homeless cat I adopted, "Shrodinger's Immigrant" has a nice ring to it. Fucking cats, why don't they work for their kibble?

[Gmollster11]

Someone is to blame for healthcare being so expensive (and ineffective) in the USA, but it isn't the illegal immigrants.

You are correct. Illegals don't impact the "cost" of healthcare. Excessive government regulations and pansy lawyers who sue over everything imaginable do.

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First- its awesome to know that some of the folks on this forum have a clue about the horrible impact liberalism and Obama/Clinton will have own the country.

Second - for all you liberals, let me summarize the big difference between conservatives and you:

Conservatives = do it myself, earn it myself, rely on myself
Liberals = do it for me, give it to me, pls help me

[Anevers]

Conservatives = do it myself, earn it myself, rely on myself
Liberals = do it for me, give it to me, pls help me

Sure...that's why Red states have more welfare recipients than Blue States.

Your attempt at explaining is a poor example of generalization, and is full of shit.


Perhaps costs are high because it is a for profit system.

[Ramahan]

Someone is to blame for healthcare being so expensive (and ineffective) in the USA, but it isn't the illegal immigrants.

Yep its all the folks like the OP who don't want to pay for health insurance then run to the ER when they get sick and then leave to the taxpayers to pay when they can't.
If you want to know why the premiums are going up so high in some states its because of all the 20somethings that need treatment for stupidity, like breaking a bone while showing off, who used to dump the cost on the state who now have insurance paying the bill.

To the OP who sounds like he feeds at the Faux News trough of mushroom fodder. Illegals pay taxes which they never get the benefit of, when they get sick they never go to an ER because INS would notified, and usually use clinics run by charities or Churches.

[Luxxor]

Someone is to blame for healthcare being so expensive (and ineffective) in the USA, but it isn't the illegal immigrants.

Its plain as day to see that because the arent enough people in the system, those in the system and especially those with the high priced premiums, are the ones to bear the brunt of supporting this gigantic crock of shit.

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Yep its all the folks like the OP who don't want to pay for health insurance then run to the ER when they get sick and then leave to the taxpayers to pay when they can't.
If you want to know why the premiums are going up so high in some states its because of all the 20somethings that need treatment for stupidity, like breaking a bone while showing off, who used to dump the cost on the state who now have insurance paying the bill.

To the OP who sounds like he feeds at the Faux News trough of mushroom fodder. Illegals pay taxes which they never get the benefit of, when they get sick they never go to an ER because INS would notified, and usually use clinics run by charities or Churches.

Could you include more Huffington post left wing cliches possibly?

[Wyrt]

I'm pretty sure insurance costs would be going up even without Obamacare, the only difference is there would be more uninsured people.

The US does need better health care laws, but we can't have that because the Republicans scream socialism whenever it's brought up.

[Felya]

Yep its all the folks like the OP who don't want to pay for health insurance then run to the ER when they get sick and then leave to the taxpayers to pay when they can't.
If you want to know why the premiums are going up so high in some states its because of all the 20somethings that need treatment for stupidity, like breaking a bone while showing off, who used to dump the cost on the state who now have insurance paying the bill.

To the OP who sounds like he feeds at the Faux News trough of mushroom fodder. Illegals pay taxes which they never get the benefit of, when they get sick they never go to an ER because INS would notified, and usually use clinics run by charities or Churches.

The issue is much simpler than that, without any hyperbole.

If someone told you that you can only keep 20% of what you bring in. How do you increase the sum you keep?

[schwank05]

All I know is before Obamacare I had great insurance for me my wife and Daughter with a 2k Deductibles it was $300.00 a month after deductible went up to 10k and price went to $1200.00 a month almost 3 times my mortgage. Now Blue Cross has completely pulled out of MN and there are no decent companies to replace them. The fine for not having insurance last year was only $1200.00 so 1 months premium.

[Zenotetsuken]

Obamacare is awesome. I was born here, my parents were born here, their parents & their parents parents were born here. Is it perfect? No, but nothing is.

[Felya]

I'm pretty sure insurance costs would be going up even without Obamacare, the only difference is there would be more uninsured people.

The US does need better health care laws, but we can't have that because the Republicans scream socialism whenever it's brought up.

They have to go up, otherwise it's very difficult to be in the green for stakeholders. There is a system that depends on healthcare being in the black, thus only increasing cost when it dips into the red. But, being in the black as a success is not free market...

[Luxxor]

Is it perfect? No, but nothing is.

Im sorry but thats a retarded way of looking at things, I suggest stop eating paint chips maybe?

Infracted - Flaming

[Wyrt]

They have to go up, otherwise it's very difficult to be in the green for stakeholders. There is a system that depends on healthcare being in the black, thus only increasing cost when it dips into the red. But, being in the black as a success is not free market...

Right, the problem definitely isn't solely with insurance companies. It's also with how absurdly expensive medical services are.