Bm which artifact?

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I have 2 artifacts

865 ilvl kill command + 5% damage
880 ilvl bestial wrath + 3% damage

On the sims KC is at 275
Bestial wrath is 272

On single target does the ilvl difference make up for this 48vs52?

[Zantos]

Use the higher ilevel one. That increases your weapons ilevel and thus, its stats. Which titanstrike has Mastery, your number 1 stat.

[Hatch]

Carefull, for BM the "highest ilevel relic" is kinda relative, cause there are traits that are more powerfull then ilevel since our pets do so much of our damage.

Check the guide at icy-veins, has a section for those.

[Tehterokkar]

Icy veins lists KC/Jaws nodes higher than a +10 iLvl upgrade on weapon.

If you want ST damage, keep KC relic.

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Use the higher ilevel one. That increases your weapons ilevel and thus, its stats. Which titanstrike has Mastery, your number 1 stat.

Also stop saying shit. Weapon ilvl is irrelevant for BM.

[Darsey]

Rule of thumb is that if it does not have Pack Leader or Jaw of Thunder, it is junk for ST and if it does not have Furious Swipes it is junk for AoE.

Had our artifact was a stat stick like a caster weapon, then the ilvls would matter, but currently too much goes to wwapon damage that is over all useless.

[deadman1]

Use the higher ilevel one. That increases your weapons ilevel and thus, its stats. Which titanstrike has Mastery, your number 1 stat.

When your pets do more damage than you, weapon stats aren't as relevant as really good traits.

[redfinale]

in the short run, higher ilvl, which equals a stronger weapon. long run, which you should shoot for, better +rank. given you're in the 860+ range for relics, take the perk that's better.

[Zantos]

Icy veins lists KC/Jaws nodes higher than a +10 iLvl upgrade on weapon.

If you want ST damage, keep KC relic.

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Also stop saying shit. Weapon ilvl is irrelevant for BM.

Its the boost to the mastery. Not the ilevel as a whole. More mastery = More damage you And your pet does throughout the battle. Both of those relics are fine, so the higher one is better.

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When your pets do more damage than you, weapon stats aren't as relevant as really good traits.

The mastery is relevant. Besides, single target, the damage increase to bw is the stronger of the two anyway.

[Tehterokkar]

Its the boost to the mastery. Not the ilevel as a whole. More mastery = More damage you And your pet does throughout the battle. Both of those relics are fine, so the higher one is better.

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The mastery is relevant. Besides, single target, the damage increase to bw is the stronger of the two anyway.

Please. Just fucking stop. A small increase in mastery is not going to outweight 5% Kill Command damage.

[deadman1]

The mastery is relevant. Besides, single target, the damage increase to bw is the stronger of the two anyway.

20 mastery isn't better than 10% to do 50% extra damage. Soz m8

[Sol77]

I have 2 artifacts

865 ilvl kill command + 5% damage
880 ilvl bestial wrath + 3% damage

On the sims KC is at 275
Bestial wrath is 272

On single target does the ilvl difference make up for this 48vs52?

How to read those sims:

for the lower lvl relic: sim result for the trait _minus_ sim result for "none"
for the higher lvl relic: above _plus_ sim result for the ilvl bonus _minus_ sim result for "none"

[Zantos]

Please. Just fucking stop. A small increase in mastery is not going to outweight 5% Kill Command damage.

Need to see what ilevel increase he would get, and take into account the increased damage to BW the relic is adding. I would take the higher ilevel + second best relic vs Lower ilevel and bis relic. That is me personally since I enjoy more damage during my cd.

[kaze950]

Need to see what ilevel increase he would get, and take into account the increased damage to BW the relic is adding. I would take the higher ilevel + second best relic vs Lower ilevel and bis relic. That is me personally since I enjoy more damage during my cd.

But it's not 2nd best. If it was the kill command relic vs. jaws of thunder relic, obviously go for higher ilvl. But the kill command relic is better than the BW relic even if the latter is +10 ilvls. When it's only +4 ilvls, like here, the kill command relic is still better. I mean either way it's not a giant difference, but "go with higher ilvl" simply isn't the way it works if you're looking to maximize DPS.

[Skul]

The two relics OP linked are 15 ilvls apart.

Looking at sims ilvls are roughly 250-300 dmg each. So add 1250ish dmg onto the top of the +10 relic. Then account that it also has Unleash the beast which adds ~1,900 dps on top of nothing (which +10 assumes no bonus traits worth).

The 880 Bestial wrath relic is better.

[BendakWoW]

The two relics OP linked are 15 ilvls apart.

Looking at sims ilvls are roughly 250-300 dmg each. So add 1250ish dmg onto the top of the +10 relic. Then account that it also has Unleash the beast which adds ~1,900 dps on top of nothing (which +10 assumes no bonus traits worth).

The 880 Bestial wrath relic is better.

You are confusing the ilevel of the relic itself with the ilvl it adds to Titanstrike.

865 gives +48 ilvl, 880 gives +52ilvl.

[Skul]

You are confusing the ilevel of the relic itself with the ilvl it adds to Titanstrike.

865 gives +48 ilvl, 880 gives +52ilvl.

Great point. Not sure why I assumed the sims would be referring to +ilvl of the relic versus the +ilvl it added to the weapon.