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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    They have rugby and hobbits as well.
    God forbid I forgot to mention those wonderful contributions to that country. I'm sorry, New Zealand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judgedredd View Post
    Then explain how the Roman Senate ironically lasted longer than the Empire? (indeed being around during the time of Belisarius who was sent to retake Rome from the barbarian invaders) and Optimates does not mean conservative. Literally it means, 'best', hence the modern word optimal as in optimal conditions.
    I know what it means, but they were absolutely the conservative faction. The populares were reformers, the optimates opposed them.

    The Senate was a shell during the Empire as I'm sure you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Once again I see people mad that someone won when it's their fault that their side could not bother and go vote. Democrats should not be mad at Republicans or at Trump, they should be livid at fellow Democrats who couldn't be bothered to go vote.
    Or be mad they presented a breakable glass woman against the oversized Cheeto.

    These two were facing the only candidates in the world they could lose against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullettime View Post
    Because by all accounts it was a longshot of a win. Trump benefitted from the perfect storm.

    Comey's letter reignited Republican zeal and increased turn out and votes by people who wouldn't have (backed up by exit poll data)
    Immense turnout from working class whites and rural whites (who had been overlooked)
    Extremely poor turnout from millenials, gen X, and blacks

    Basically, Trump's core flooded the polls while the main demographics giving Hillary the expected edge didn't show up.
    A longshot according to who? The polls which were proven to be totally inaccurate on the day of the election? The pundits who took them as gospel?
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  6. #5086
    Quote Originally Posted by woozie21 View Post
    I wonder what would have happened if Bernie was put forward instead of Clinton.
    Then no one would be shocked about the outcome
    Mother pus bucket!

  7. #5087
    The election came down to, "who do you think is the lesser of two evils?"

    This election became a pathetic joke after the primaries. Clearly a bipartisan system is flawed if both the republican and democratic candidate are considered awful by a vast majority of the population. But I'm the crazy one because I voted for a 3rd party. Whatever helps people sleep at night I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tankbug View Post
    I'm shocked to see that the Bernie-supporters actually use Trump's victory as evidence against choosing Hillary for the candidate. Like the redneck-hordes would rather vote for Bernie, hah! A "socialist" could never have won the election. Bernie-supporters who didn't vote for Hillary just made the world a worse place to live in. DNC got punished? It's the little people that have to pay for this shit, the same people Bernie was trying to protect. But as long as the "Bernie or Bust" -gang can feel good about themselves, I guess the actual consequences don't matter at all. They are worse than Trump-supporters. I fart in their general direction!
    Fuck I as a self-declared redneck (because you seem to like to brand NORMAL people rednecks) would rather vote for Bernie over Hillary.
    Hell, I'd rather choose Jill Stein.

  9. #5089
    Quote Originally Posted by woozie21 View Post
    I wonder what would have happened if Bernie was put forward instead of Clinton.
    He probably would have gotten more the much needed younger vote out to the polls and would have pulled off grabbing the battle ground states and we would be having a very different presidency for the next 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonecloak View Post
    It was a big voter turnout. The only blame really is on themselves. Hillary was not the best candidate for the dems. They bet on the wrong person. Too many mistakes along the way, and Hillary does have a checkered past no matter how you spin it.
    I also think that things would went very differently if Sanders would have been the Democrat's candidate. Many people who were disappointed that he gave up in favor of Clinton have probably voted for Trump. I also think that Sanders would have been the best candidate for the job, because he wanted change for USA citizens to benefit, but he also was a sane man and not the narcisstic, misogynic, xenophobic asshole which is Trump.

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    Think you'll see electoral reforms next go-round?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    German marriage-citizenship laws aren't quite that liberal - you need to be married to a German citizen AND resident in Germany for several years (I believe that marriage to a German citizen does allow you residency, though, so that part would work - if you just want residence, rather than German citizenship before renouncing US citizenship).
    Ironically though German Citizenship laws are very lax if you can prove an ancestor from Germany. My cousin plays professional hockey in Germany and when he first went there to play found out he would only make something like 3/4th of the Money of other players because there is a limit on how much they can pay "imports"... Our grandfather Though was from Germany and his family had immigrated here before he was born So being 4th Generation German He was able to obtain Dual Citizenship somehow allowing him to be paid fully and not count against the teams Import cap.....

    Although I believe it wasn't untill his 2nd season that he was able to get citizenship He had to live in the country for something like 6 months to 1 year and then prove ancestry.

  13. #5093
    Quote Originally Posted by tankbug View Post
    I'm shocked to see that the Bernie-supporters actually use Trump's victory as evidence against choosing Hillary for the candidate. Like the redneck-hordes would rather vote for Bernie, hah! A "socialist" could never have won the election. Bernie-supporters who didn't vote for Hillary just made the world a worse place to live in. DNC got punished? It's the little people that have to pay for this shit, the same people Bernie was trying to protect. But as long as the "Bernie or Bust" -gang can feel good about themselves, I guess the actual consequences don't matter at all. They are worse than Trump-supporters. I fart in their general direction!
    you think i'm gonna make it good out of this win? hell no, trump ain't good for me, except for his foreign policy. i'm thoroughly fucked.

    but bernie would have won this. he would have won states that trump just turned blue. trump didn't win this on the backs of republicans, he won it on independents that overwhelming would have voted for bernie.

    young voters as well, he had young voters in a way that not even obama did.

  14. #5094
    Trump: "We will put millions of people to work by rebuilding the country".

    Translation: All leftist scum report to the southern border at 4am sharp for 'orientation'. Bring lots of bricks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsieuRoberts View Post
    Think you'll see electoral reforms next go-round?
    No. The only shot at actual electoral reform would have been a Clinton win and her putting up multiple moderate to left leaning judges to the SC bench in order to make the hard ruling on gerrymandering and lobbying.

    That's why I've been claiming that a vote for Trump, despite being the anti establishment president, is actually more a vote for status quo than Clinton.
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    From my perspective it is an uncle who was is a "simple" slat of the earth person, who has religous beliefs I may or may not fully agree with, but who in the end of the day wants to go hope, kiss his wife, and kids, and enjoy their company.
    Connal defending child molestation

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    Quote Originally Posted by scubistacy View Post
    I also think that things would went very differently if Sanders would have been the Democrat's candidate. Many people who were disappointed that he gave up in favor of Clinton have probably voted for Trump. I also think that Sanders would have been the best candidate for the job, because he wanted change for USA citizens to benefit, but he also was a sane man and not the narcisstic, misogynic, xenophobic asshole which is Trump.
    And Trump couldn't just yell, "EMAILS!" all the time and would have to actually debate on policy.

  17. #5097
    On behalf of Russians I congratulate US citizens with their newly elected president Donald Trump.
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  18. #5098
    Quote Originally Posted by Judgedredd View Post
    Translation: All leftist scum report to the southern border at 4am sharp for 'orientation'. Bring lots of bricks.
    Isn't manual labor more something for the average trump voter ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsieuRoberts View Post
    Think you'll see electoral reforms next go-round?
    Why, the popular and electoral was given to the winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judgedredd View Post
    Trump: "We will put millions of people to work by rebuilding the country".

    Translation: All leftist scum report to the southern border at 4am sharp for 'orientation'. Bring lots of bricks.
    They'll be right there as soon as Mexico's cheque clears.
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