Final Attempt at Subraces/Alt-Races

[Northem]

It makes me funny how many people talk disparagingly about the half-elves, as if they were something anecdotal, residual, strange ...
However, perhaps one of the most famous "elves" of the most famous fantasy universe, is actually a half-elf. I am referring to Elrond, from the Tolkien universe.

[Friendlyimmolation]

It makes me funny how many people talk disparagingly about the half-elves, as if they were something anecdotal, residual, strange ...
However, perhaps one of the most famous "elves" of the most famous fantasy universe, is actually a half-elf. I am referring to Elrond, from the Tolkien universe.

Elrond cant be considered a "half elf" in the same way you would find them in WoW. He chose the fate of an immortal elf.

[Gurluas]

High elves are a must!
I don't care about any stupid OOc reasons, we need playable High elves in the Alliance one way or another.
And the way to do so is simple, just classify Blood elves as neutral.

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I actually can't really see how Half-Elves are supposed to be rare as both races, High Elves and Humans, nearly look identical. Both High Elves and most Humans look exactly like european humans, with the humans being a little broader.

[Friendlyimmolation]

I actually can't really see how Half-Elves are supposed to be rare as both races, High Elves and Humans, nearly look identical. Both High Elves and most Humans look exactly like european humans, with the humans being a little broader.

Because for the most part, the races are pretty separate. You have the overwhelming majority of the elves withdrawing from the Alliance the moment they could.

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Because for the most part, the races are pretty separate. You have the overwhelming majority of the elves withdrawing from the Alliance the moment they could.

Most of the time we have one important city-state where elves and humans met all the time. Hell, the crown prince of Quel'thalas even worked as a member of this cities leading council. There aren't even real cultural differences, as High Elves don't really have a own culture other than magic. It would be logical if at least Dalaran had loads of Half-Elves. I think its rather stupid to make something special out of human/high elf relationships. Like I said, both races look nearly identical, so they are the two races who are most likely to interbreed.

[Alanar]

This is not true, half-elves in WoW are usually represented by human models (Alodi & Kalec's mortal disguise), the only exception to this being Arator. Half-elves should/could/would have models based off the human models but with semi-pointed ears, elvish brows, a slightly thinner physique and maybe some elvish hairstyles.

Yea ok.. bit why do you rven want that? There is no lore for them and there are like 3 half elves.. sure thy can ceate something out of thin air.. but honestly it sounds like reaching for straws.

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High elves are a must!
I don't care about any stupid OOc reasons, we need playable High elves in the Alliance one way or another.
And the way to do so is simple, just classify Blood elves as neutral.

Why?.. We have them already only with a differnt name.

[Techno-Druid]

Yea ok.. bit why do you rven want that? There is no lore for them and there are like 3 half elves.. sure thy can ceate something out of thin air.. but honestly it sounds like reaching for straws.

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Why?.. We have them already only with a differnt name.

There's lore for half-elves, because almost anything that exists in-game has lore supporting it. Plus they "create things out of thin air" every expansion and have been doing that since Orcs and Humans. That's the beauty of fiction, you can create new lore and then retcon that existing lore.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Dragonmaw or go home. Could be a redemption story where Dragonmaw orcs that didn't want in on Garrosh's Horde come back and join the Horde they wanted to be a part of.

[Mehrunes]

Dragonmaw or go home. Could be a redemption story where Dragonmaw orcs that didn't want in on Garrosh's Horde come back and join the Horde they wanted to be a part of.

That would be story going in circles a bit. Zaela rejecting Mor'ghor's Fel Horde and teaming up with Garrosh and playable Horde back when Garrosh wasn't full one race, one Horde, one Warchief yet was already their redemption arc.

[shoc]

Since people are sharing my 3 year old mockups maybe you guys would be interested in this sub-race proposal I drafted not too long ago.

https://imgur.com/a/8EeTm

[Friendlyimmolation]

Since people are sharing my 3 year old mockups maybe you guys would be interested in this sub-race proposal I drafted not too long ago.

https://imgur.com/a/8EeTm

the biggest thing that bugs me is that upright posture is a characteristic you give to orcs. All orcs stand upright in lore, not just the half orcs.

[shoc]

the biggest thing that bugs me is that upright posture is a characteristic you give to orcs. All orcs stand upright in lore, not just the half orcs.

I know, but I think it's a way Blizzard can take advantage of a possible two birds, one stone situation. Adding a whole new skeleton with all new animations just for Orcs is going to get construed as Orc favoritism.

[Friendlyimmolation]

I know, but I think it's a way Blizzard can take advantage of a possible two birds, one stone situation. Adding a whole new skeleton with all new animations just for Orcs is going to get construed as Orc favoritism.

I mean the art director already said theyd love to add the option for orcs, they could just include it along with the subraces no need to go "hey know how you all wanted to play straight back orcs? " "Psych!"

[Techno-Druid]

I mean the art director already said theyd love to add the option for orcs, they could just include it along with the subraces no need to go "hey know how you all wanted to play straight back orcs? " "Psych!"

It seems like minute aesthetic traits like upright postures for orcs and trolls or a blue and gold (for belf paladins) eye color options could be worked in as a seperate customization detail.

[Friendlyimmolation]

It seems like minute aesthetic traits like upright postures for orcs and trolls or a blue and gold (for belf paladins) eye color options could be worked in as a seperate customization detail.

Yea, pissing off orcs who want to play straight back orcs like they are shown off in the cinematics by forcing them to be a half orc would not be the way to go.

[Techno-Druid]

Since people are sharing my 3 year old mockups maybe you guys would be interested in this sub-race proposal I drafted not too long ago.

https://imgur.com/a/8EeTm

Btw, did you ever do that furbolg photoshop? XD.

[Northem]

Well, let’s be sincere, the existence of the “hybrid races” would be nothing more than an anecdote if it were not because the two last iconic and historic races that the Horde and the Alliance are still missing (Ogres and High Elves respectively) cannot be playable due to different intrinsic problems with those races.

A lot of people want that the Horde can have the Ogres as a playable race, at the same time many other people want the High Elves as a playable race of the Alliance, but being realistic, everybody knows that both dreams are impossible to fulfill. And it is at this point when the hybrid races arise as a solution.

The problem is: the people who want Ogres and High Elves, will they conform with the Semi-Ogres and Half-Elves? And another issue: should they be sub-races or maybe independent races by themselves?

[Syegfryed]

Dragonmaw or go home. Could be a redemption story where Dragonmaw orcs that didn't want in on Garrosh's Horde come back and join the Horde they wanted to be a part of.

if they would ever put sub race like the maghar one, thy totally will do the blackrock and the dragonmaw orcs, there is no need of a redemption story cause some of they did not join Garrosh side, Koak is a great exemple, he could be a new chieftain, and bring a new philosofy of creating dragons

[Deleted]

Sub-races is the most asked feature atm.
I think at some point (possible next exp. pack) they will introduce it as one of the big features.