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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Vuagnon View Post
    Maybe it just doesn't happen where I am. Waiting for hours with keystone and being unable to find anyone unless you pay them 200k gold. This is what I have seen so far.
    i've boosted like 20 +7-9 keystones in the last 24 hours, if you get a shit key like HoV yeh people are probably going to pass on that and you won't get a boost that week you'll have to find ppl seriously willing to do that mythic and they'll probably be bad and it'll be a wipefest taking over an hour.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelathos View Post
    You have 8 that cleared EN.
    The OP is talking about Mythic, not casual raiding where anyone can find a place.
    The OP can't figure out how to join a guild that raids mythic, doesn't understand how to log his combat (or use google, presumably), thinks people pay to receive mythic+ boosts, frequently depletes his keystones, feels forced to pay for boosts because he can't carry his own weight, and god knows what else he isn't telling us about... somehow I suspect his problems with finding a guild aren't because there aren't any available for him to join.
    "Quack, quack, Mr. Bond."

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Simulacrum View Post
    The OP can't figure out how to join a guild that raids mythic, doesn't understand how to log his combat (or use google, presumably), thinks people pay to receive mythic+ boosts, frequently depletes his keystones, feels forced to pay for boosts because he can't carry his own weight, and god knows what else he isn't telling us about... somehow I suspect his problems with finding a guild aren't because there aren't any available for him to join.
    Depends what realm some realms are dead or only have one raid guild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simulacrum View Post
    The OP can't figure out how to join a guild that raids mythic, doesn't understand how to log his combat (or use google, presumably), thinks people pay to receive mythic+ boosts, frequently depletes his keystones, feels forced to pay for boosts because he can't carry his own weight, and god knows what else he isn't telling us about... somehow I suspect his problems with finding a guild aren't because there aren't any available for him to join.
    I have just discovered how to log my combat, thanks for your nice words anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonuts View Post
    Pretty sad when being deathgripped is my most reliable gap closer! THAT is some BS too.

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    "Halp guys I can't run mythic without a guild but I don't want to join a guild and progress like other people, wat do?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathquoi View Post
    "Halp guys I can't run mythic without a guild but I don't want to join a guild and progress like other people, wat do?"
    This isn't good enough.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonuts View Post
    Pretty sad when being deathgripped is my most reliable gap closer! THAT is some BS too.

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    What server are you on?

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Vuagnon View Post
    I'm trying to figure out how logging a fight works. Just tried to log a dungeon run and it says 'This report contains no fights yet'. What am I doing wrong?
    write /combatlog in game once the dungeon starts

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Vuagnon View Post
    I have no friends, not a guild and all the mythic progression guild recruiters I have talked to so far ask for previous mythic experience. If I had mythic experience I'd not be looking for mythic progression guild.
    join the club tho i joined a friends guild as a social till i decided that i wanted mythic raiding be4 they started mythic en i applied for a trial spot and got declined so got no guild and worst of all im melee
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    Quote Originally Posted by klaps_05 View Post
    write /combatlog in game once the dungeon starts
    I actually managed to upload my first log. It was a horrible run with a lot of deaths in it though, so I decided to delete it. The tool looks quite potent anyway and will definitely help me to unravel things that I'd never be able to without it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonuts View Post
    Pretty sad when being deathgripped is my most reliable gap closer! THAT is some BS too.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Simulacrum View Post
    The OP can't figure out how to join a guild that raids mythic, doesn't understand how to log his combat (or use google, presumably), thinks people pay to receive mythic+ boosts, frequently depletes his keystones, feels forced to pay for boosts because he can't carry his own weight, and god knows what else he isn't telling us about... somehow I suspect his problems with finding a guild aren't because there aren't any available for him to join.
    Heh, a lot of people can't break into mythic raiding because they're tainted by pug mentality... things like:
    - why no one invites me I have ilvl and curve?
    - why should I write an app, apps are for jobs!
    - I have no mythic experience, why does a world top 300 guild decline me this is unfair! No, I won't apply to this 2/7 mythic guild they're n00bz...

    Last time I decided to advise a person claiming no guild recruits his / her class and spec (I immediately found few guilds on the server that did) I found out the usual, the person has trouble committing to the cause and is generally a tourist / pug mentality type of player, only there for the loot and smooth sail experience, also immediately negative towards any average progressed guilds that aren't server top.

    Yes, it is harder as a melee than let's say a mage, but if you're a good player and work your way from down up, it's possible. The biggest mistake I see people make is immediately apply to server top guilds completely ignoring lower guilds treating them as something "beneath them", especially with the argument "I've killed as much in a pug already".

    Biggest advantage of a guild is that it should be a more stable environment than a pug. A pug is hit or miss, one week is good another wastes your time and lockout.

    But if you have amazing pugs runs, log them (there are guides and videos about it, not hard to find), that's a biggest asset in guild applications. Logs are a proof whether your gear and "curve" was obtained through hard work or by laying dead in a corner while the rest of the group kills the boss for you.

    About the gear gap... well EN hc is quite forgiving therefore widely pugged, with all the titanforged floating around it's not impossible to get "ready for mythic". I mean... my alt is 862 ilvl without doing any raids or mythic+, I find it actually sad and demoralizing you can get so much gear with minuscule effort (only WQ, world bosses, order hall missions, timewalking caches, emissary chests etc.)

    Except presenting logs where you show you're a skilled member of your class be sure you're gemmed / enchanted and that you can articulate yourself well. Apps written by people who look as if they were stoned or high or just didn't give half a f*** are usually insta decline.
    Last edited by Marrilaife; 2016-11-13 at 02:21 AM.

  12. #52
    Yeah, i'm having trouble to find a raiding guild as a melee too , people know i'm good so they want me to play elemental or reroll for an alt, but I found a good one this time.

  13. #53
    If you want to find a guild be prepared to do the following

    1. Move server.

    Its pretty likely that you will need to do this unless you're on a power house realm for pve.

    2. Have previous logs available or video footage or achievements like Ahead of the Curve Lei Shen 25 HC for example.

    I've done the above and never had trouble finding a guild. That said I haven't done it this expansion, but as an example, I quit in early WoD, came back 3 months into the Launch of HFC in baleful gear, wrote a good app and provided logs from my old main and they let me in anyway. The logs weren't even of the class I was going on, either. I joined as a hunter, the logs were of my fury warrior.

    A good app will take you a long way.

    Also, don't be a dunce or shy. You're there to kill bosses. Enter prepared for everything. My first raid with that guild I got them to redo their entire strategy for Fel Lord Zakuun and we killed it the following night. Don't be a warm body, actively partake in the strategy of the boss. Point out issues and provide possible solutions.

    I'd also like to point out this is the first tier of the expansion. Anyone who has raided for more than 2-3 expansions knows that the first tier of an expansion is a fucking whirlwind of chaos. People logging in one day, disappearing the next, guilds disbanding left and right and reforming, people that were good previous expansion suddenly dogshit in their new playstyle, finding a guild in the first tier is easy... but finding a good one is tough.

    It doesn't help that the first tiers are typically (but not always) stupid hard for the first week or two. BWD, TOT4W and BOT come to mind, so does HOF and MSV, lets not exclude BRF either. While these bosses might not be mechanically hard, the players raiding them have just come from a world of 588 ilvl in a 560 ilvl zone, or 750 ilvl in a 725 ilvl zone. These players are lazy and allow themselves to take damage with their grossly exaggerated health pools. Throwing them back into the dirt at the start of expansion weeds out a lot of slow ass players.

    I have no idea how people fail trials in world 200+ guilds. World <100 i can understand, thats a pretty serious environment, but world 200+ you have to actively be doing fuck all in the raid to get declined a trial.

    It also comes down to the people looking at apps. Good guilds will ask the good players of that class to look over your armory and logs. A good player is easy to spot even if they're 50 ilvls below you and haven't raided for the past 2 expansions. Good players invite good players to their guilds, regardless of gear or achievements.

    I can't speak for EN but i've heard this isn't the case this time. Its also apparent that ilvl is much higher than it 'should' be this tier. Even I, a complete non raider who hasn't even entered any normal mode or higher raid this expansion, is 865 ilvl. I outgear heroic i think at this point.
    Last edited by Sliske; 2016-11-13 at 02:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelathos View Post
    You have 8 that cleared EN.
    The OP is talking about Mythic, not casual raiding where anyone can find a place.
    Please... OP is crying he can't find MM+ groups. He is not mythic raiding material, at all.
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    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

  15. #55
    Work your way up. Find a guild doing heroic or maybe some early mythic and prove yourself there for a month. If you are a head taller than them skill wise move up. If you are on par you might want to stick around and improve. Continue until you are happy with progression or find the right people to play with. Pretty simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuagnon View Post
    I actually managed to upload my first log. It was a horrible run with a lot of deaths in it though, so I decided to delete it. The tool looks quite potent anyway and will definitely help me to unravel things that I'd never be able to without it.
    What class and spec do you play, out of curiosity?

    I run a "boost group" almost every day - Our service is 3 chested 7-9 or a 2 chested 10 run, and their payment is their keystone. Your class and spec literally have no influence on this, so we take anyone 855+. I see several of these groups up at almost any time during the day, usually boosting different ranges of keys - I'm on EU as well.

    Send me a PM and my group can take you for a spin some time tomorrow/monday - I can report back to the forums if you are as bad as they all seem to think you are, hah.

  17. #57
    Regardless if boosting is legal, which it is, it is against the very spirit of the game.

    As long as boosts started to happen, everyone lost patience and became toxic. The community of vanilla and TBC just vanished because of boosting (and LFG tool)

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Vuagnon View Post
    I have no friends, not a guild and all the mythic progression guild recruiters I have talked to so far ask for previous mythic experience. If I had mythic experience I'd not be looking for mythic progression guild.
    Just quit. Youre not enjoying the game and your crying just makes you seem pathetic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizah View Post
    why so mad bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuagnon View Post
    I have no friends, not a guild and all the mythic progression guild recruiters I have talked to so far ask for previous mythic experience. If I had mythic experience I'd not be looking for mythic progression guild.
    heres what you do, join a guild that is progressing early or about to start mythic, there get experience and mythic kills achievement, then start climbing to where you wanna be. Its a bit of a shitty move from a Guild perspective-view, but its an option in order to get where you want to be.

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Vuagnon View Post
    Maybe it just doesn't happen where I am. Waiting for hours with keystone and being unable to find anyone unless you pay them 200k gold. This is what I have seen so far.
    Open dungeon finder, premade groups, dungeons, search for boost. Join group that are looking for the type of key you have.
    If you have someting like Maw, CoS, Arcway 2-9 it will be highly requested (even 10maw this week) and you will have it boosted 3 chests np.
    Other dungeons are boosted bit less, but its only HoV that ppl seem to not run at all.

    You have to go to them (us), within one minute of listing the group its 20+ players lined up asking for boost. None is going around looking for keys.

    Have boosted few hundred m+ myself for free, also done some for gold.

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