I was just hoping for a small BM buff.. so even the class wide crit nerf is upsetting
Crit is underpowered for 2/3 of the hunter specs, I'm going to guess that the crit nerf is an attempt to fix secondaries by making crit relatively more valuable. 25% crit rate from gear is more valuable if you have 5% crit rather than 10%. I'm guessing we'll see some sort of baseline damage buff in the works.
I have played BM/MM/Enhancement shaman they are all really simple.. the mechanics are what should make the raids fun/interesting.. I love being able to pull of my rotation while being mobile as MM but BM especially. I couldn't imagine playing survival in say TOV atm vs Odyn.. with tons of sh1t flying around trying to keep up all my dots and get the most out of mongoose bite.. constantly having to switch targets... doesn't spell fun to me.. more buttons to press does not necessary = fun
That said I am surprised they didn't buff BM a bit prior to this upcoming patch just going of logs/sims BM is not in a great spot.. it's not what I see on live but I am in an above average guild.. not top tier one.. But I would still like to see
A hati damage buff/speed increase
Dire beast/stomp stack to 3
blink strikes base line
dire frenzy to be far superior at ST vs stomp
Titans thunder to work on pet summoned after you press it
Ridiculous hyperbole doesn't help you make your case. In any event, if you can't accept the fact that some people prefer X spec over Y spec (for any reason they deem appropriate), then I'm sorry you're so dense.
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Should take about a week to level up a new weapon at high AK (which everyone should have by this point).
Just 3 things would make bm shine again.
1) Bm lacks cleave damage: solution chimera shot.
2) Implement Dire Beast charge mechanic.
3) Improvement on pet AI, hati's movement speed.
No tuning, no talent revamp needed besides above.
But that's the point...AK makes "starting from square one" really easy. You can get a new weapon up to snuff extremely quickly when you're AK15. You lose very little of your investment in BM because of how AK scales up.
Where the problem really arises is with gear and even more so legendaries. If you have a spec-specific legendary, you really take a hit by changing specs.
Yes, as odd as it might sound BM is one of the worst cleave specs in the game at higher item levels. Consistent cleave does not always mean good cleave. BM is mediocre at best even with full cleave build of blink strikes,volley, stampede and beast cleave relics. The only realistic and efficient way of playing BM for raiding or M+ is the single target build with either legendary bracer or belt. This build includes stomp,bestial fury,crows,killer cobra with full jaws of thunder and or pack leader relics. Don't bother playing BM if you don't have legendary bracer or belt as it's a complete waste of time. If you are running some sort of cleave build as BM you are simply gimping your M+ or raid team.
The main problem with beast cleave it scales horribly and requires targets to be grip stacked for it to do any damage. Even then it's a slow burn cleave with no burst. Just about every spec in the game has higher potential for burst cleave which is all that matters.
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The way I understand it cleave is pretty much doing normal single target rotation but splashing down other mobs at the same time.. like MM.. enhance shaman
BM AOE is great but it's not really cleave.. if you have important targets you need to down fast you can't really spam MS/stomp because he wont die fast enough
I don't consider it a problem because Bm burst with Cds is very high..
When I get mythic teams together I build around BM weakness anyway.. long silence CD/lack of decent stuns etc