The Unholy talent changes are nice, and will certainly make picking those talents more attractive.
Unholy needs substantial baseline buffs, though. That's what people are upset about.
The Unholy talent changes are nice, and will certainly make picking those talents more attractive.
Unholy needs substantial baseline buffs, though. That's what people are upset about.
I think that Unholy Frenzy should stack.
Agreed! There are changes to our survivability mostly from what I've seen which isn't really the issue. The issue is our theoretical maximum dps at the base level. The Summon Valkyr change is good, but it really only applies to burst potential as that is what that particular talent brings to the table, not really sustained dps as Soul Reaper is the go to talent for that in that layer.
The real issues are what I would like to see a change to, the slow but deadly archetype isn't playing out, because we're slow and hit like a dry goldfish. I think the main issue is that most of the changes are inspired by PvP, but that significantly hurts us in PvE. Unholy isn't even the spec that is potentially "globalling" players, we don't work like that, never have.
I'm still thinking that Unholy is going to be thrash. What with Sindragosa's Breath? Did they bring it back to Unholy or not? The Val'Kyr 2min CD seems good, but I'd still run it only when I have to burst down a boss, i.e. the Curator during Evocation, or Ash'Golm during frozen phase. Unholy Frenzy is not a big change, and still, it will only be decent with the legendary bracers.
Last edited by Baddok21; 2016-11-23 at 04:25 PM.
Second round of changes and.....not shit. Losing hope.
They're pretty awesome changes when you consider Convergence of Fates.
Still basically nothing. I'd love to see something reduce the cooldown of army. I'd like to see us get back some of the power the bracers are losing as baseline. I'd like to see the numbers tweaked so we do slightly more damage and stay relevant going forward. But... we get more AMS and valk???
what a joke for unholy
didnt blizzard promise there wouldnt be wild swings in balance so people who dumped AP wouldnt feel like it was worthless?
so why do I with 32 points in unholy AND the bracers only do marginally (~40-50k) more than my frost which has only 24 points in it?
Combined with no new significant changes to unholy in 2 ptr patches shows blizzard cant make good on promises
So....
Who's hyped to get a big fat fuck all in tonight's build?
I sure am :x
new ptr build pushed back to tomrorow
am ready for a big load of nothing
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Depends on how it stacks, I think adding the huge attackspeed buff onto itself would be too silly (how do you balance other talents against +700% attackspeed?), though it'd be amazing if it's duration stacked up.
Also, more importantly, your pets and minions should also receive the Unholy Frenzy buff (since it's attackspeed and not haste). Unholy Frenzy has always been something a necromancer buffs on their minions and not themselves, so I'm puzzled as to why our minions haven't been included in this talent to begin with.
Originally Posted by Boubouille
early on I was UH and messing around with UF and got to 1.1 attack speed. was fun to have a 2H swing faster then duel wielding
having Seal of Necro I am looking forward to seeing BoS next build and what it can do. especially with gathering storm build
whats funny is all you guys that trashed frost for months and whined "the ceiling is higher for unholy" and bla bla bla are all frost now
I'm sure once they see the numbers a week or 2 after patch they will tune up UH a little more, just as they did with frost- except that took two months....
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maybe people will take DA again? or have some faith if they have the legendary shoulders in the talent
also, the ring from Court of Stars will be bad ass with UF
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That's just the name of the game man, things change and People play the better performing spec. Nothing against frost back then but it WAS shit. Now unholy is shit lol so it's just natural everyone bashes it and rerolled. From how good it was in beta, it sure is the laughing stock of all specs now. From hero to zero real quick.
I bet they will just make data mined info official which is just a big FU to unholy....