Legion - Subtlety discussion

[Deleted]

so now shadow nova proccs from shuriken storm aswell when used during SD or from stealth. = cray aoe burst ?

[Maelstrom51]

No, 5 second CD.

Its the same as live but with a quality of life buff.

[elfporn]

No, 5 second CD.

Its the same as live but with a quality of life buff.

wheres it say it's a 5sec cd?

[Maelstrom51]

wheres it say it's a 5sec cd?

http://ptr.wowdb.com/artifact-calcul...AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Check the tooltip.

[Coldkil]

http://ptr.wowdb.com/artifact-calcul...AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Check the tooltip.

Now the thing is freakin consistent. Maybe the 5sec rule is a little too much, but if aoe is too low they can simply reduce the cd without issues at all.

We are getting a little single target buff, and clear direction about our aoe rotations (cleave = SS; 3+ = SStorm) while Shadow Dance management is left untouched.

[Deleted]

I got the cloak and the insignia but i would love the boots, they are awesome.

I got bracers and Prydaz

I believe it's simply stupid that someone cant' do his correctly rotation depending on having a legendary or not.

[Deleted]

At the end, Shadow Nova got a QoL treatment. I believe that damage wise is going to be the same or very similar, but at least you wont pull unnecessary things when leaving Stealth or using Sprint.

[Rixan]

i posted this over on wow forums but figured id spread the netting a bit to maybe get some assistance here

Can someone review this ursoc log from last night and give me some advice on how to improve my numbers? I was 404k overall and I feel like thats really low for my iLvl

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...-done&source=2

Should i give weapon master a try? I'm gonna sim it when I get home, I do have some gear that would up my mastery to 90% but when I equip it currently I actually lose DPS in the sim - im not sure why (maybe baseline haste and vers need to be at a certain point, I'm also aware that my vers is a tad low)

Secondly, how to utlize my relic slots has been thrown for a loop, i'm currently sitting with

1) Additional 3 seconds to symbols ilvl 875 Fel Relic
2) Additional 5% damage to nightblade ilvl 865 Shadow Relic
3) Additional 5% damage to shadowstrike ilvl 860 Fel Relic

I have an iLvl 855 Energetic Stabbing Fel Relic in my bag, should i replace the Shadowstrike one?

I was thinking ideally two energetic stabbing relics and one nightblade relic, but i'm having a hard time figuring out how to sim them with their modified ilvls and such - I'm also having a terrible time finding energetic stabbing relics with a decent ilvl

Thanks for any help

[Kwakman]

I just realized that with tier bonus we dont have a lot of time to make use of a 6 point finality buff.
Finality lasts 30 seconds and a 18 second baseline 6cpt Nightblade + 12 cpt from tier is also 30 seconds.

[Kaluna]

The good thing will be anticipation.
We'll take that talent when the 19 bonuses get here.

[Abalon]

Do you think their adjusting sub in anticipation of t19?

[Maelstrom51]

Yes, absolutely. With Anticipation we will be able to get four 3cp Shadowstrikes per Shadowdance without capping CP often at all, which will further increase Shadowdance uptime and number of Shadowstrikes. The buff to anticipation doesn't look huge but it is, as at 8 CP we would overlap by 1-3 CP every dance.

[Drub]

I can only hope they fixed the Anticipation bug that we endured for all of WoD.

[shaunika123]

I can only hope they fixed the Anticipation bug that we endured for all of WoD.

which bug?

but it's completely different now, you just flat out have 10 CPs and that's it.

[Drub]

Sometimes CPs in anticipation would get stuck there and you'd be unable to use them until you used a finisher again (or something like that, I usually had it occur when I used S&D when I had CPs anticipated).
I didn't see the new version though, that'll be nice to use.

[shaunika123]

Sometimes CPs in anticipation would get stuck there and you'd be unable to use them until you used a finisher again (or something like that, I usually had it occur when I used S&D when I had CPs anticipated).
I didn't see the new version though, that'll be nice to use.

that wasnt a bug
anticipation simply didnt work with slice only "attacking" finisher moves

[panzaghor]

I've been doing a ton of thing for my college this semester and i haven't had the time to study my rotation, do you guys have any tips? Like, even though i didn't study i'm doing 92~95% and i normally do between 97 and 100% so something must be wrong, do you guys have any tips for my rotation ?

[Deleted]

I've been doing a ton of thing for my college this semester and i haven't had the time to study my rotation, do you guys have any tips? Like, even though i didn't study i'm doing 92~95% and i normally do between 97 and 100% so something must be wrong, do you guys have any tips for my rotation ?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...888994/latest/ - that's far off 92~95%, be honest if u want help ; ). From a quick look, to much Backstabs especially without Boots u need to be conservative with them and basically just use them when u would cap energy.

[Deleted]

Cut

For my opinions, you simply dont' have boots (and insignia). I didn't read too much of your log, but it seems to me that you got too low eviscerate damage, I guess you need boots to improve your rotation and consequently eviscerate damage.

[panzaghor]

HC ToV and M EN should be ignored since my my guild is testing some new players and our past 3 weeks have been though, we usually finish with more than 7 deaths on those modes.