Trump to Announce Carrier Plant Will Keep Jobs in U.S.

[araine]

This ^^^

This is how corporate America works.

Keep in mind that the parent of Carrier (United Technologies) made $7.6 billion in profits last year...not sales, profits. There is absolutely no reason that they needed to outsource those jobs. Hell, they could have kept everyone and gave them nice raises and they would still be obscenely profitable. Instead, they threaten to outsource, and they were actually rewarded with promises of contracts and more tax incentives.

Conservatives want people to be more patriotic. Why can't they start pushing that corporations start being at least as patriotic as our citizens?

corporate greed, and the faster folks understand that business is by nature an enemy of your country the better they will be

and by enemy we mean they have no interest in the well being of your country they infact will throw your country on the garbage pile if it means they can make more $$$$

[Cthulhu 2020]

Trump is doing now what the democrats could've done for the past 8 years and they'd still be in power. You don't need congress to work out deals and we keep our tax base and jobs here. Have fun being vindictive a holes for not taking action that was possible.

Lol, those jobs are getting automated or being shipped out anyway. Democrat policy has been investing in expanding education and retraining, which is what we need to get people back to work. Saving dying industries is a waste of money. Would you rather put money into an industry that will create explosive employment and great jobs in the future for years to come, and retraining people to go into those positions, or pour money into a corporation that's extorting you to keep jobs on life support for another year?

[Vizardlorde]

700k yearly deficit for indiana in exchange for 1000 factory jobs ...

[Matchles]

As has been said, offering incentives to businesses is something that has been done long before Trump. In this case, we know Carrier was legit going to outsource the jobs, The scenario you propose in which businesses will "pretend to outsource jobs" didn't happen yet, so we don't know how Trump will respond. Chances are though, if they stand to save lots of money, they will strongly consider it so the idea that they are bluffing is rather silly. Not sure why you think Trump can't detect a bluff in the world of business.

But it's bullshit. First, Carrier is STILL building the Mexico plant and half of the workers there are still losing their jobs to that plant. He "saved" the remaining jobs by forcing the Indiana taxpayers to pay for the salaries of the workers that remain. He didn't strike this deal by strong-arming them with threats of higher taxes, he struck it by bending over like a bitch and giving in to every demand they had.

[Krille]

700k yearly deficit for indiana in exchange for 1000 factory jobs ...

That's not the entire picture either. There's surely more to this deal than anyone has said yet. A company that's already begun outsourcing jobs to get cheap labor isn't going to be satisfied by 700k a year, it's of such little significance to a company making billions each year.

[Pterodactylus]

Trump is doing now what the democrats could've done for the past 8 years and they'd still be in power. You don't need congress to work out deals and we keep our tax base and jobs here. Have fun being vindictive a holes for not taking action that was possible.

President Obama saved 1.5 million jobs with his auto bailout.

http://www.reuters.com/article/autos...0JO0XU20131209

[Barnabas]

Lol, those jobs are getting automated or being shipped out anyway. Democrat policy has been investing in expanding education and retraining, which is what we need to get people back to work. Saving dying industries is a waste of money. Would you rather put money into an industry that will create explosive employment and great jobs in the future for years to come, and retraining people to go into those positions, or pour money into a corporation that's extorting you to keep jobs on life support for another year?

10 years they keep their job and they aren't mcdonalds pay grade jobs. They keep it for pittance and when carrier adds new jobs all that tax revenue being exchanged comes back. And then some? I mean who cares?

[araine]

Trump is doing now what the democrats could've done for the past 8 years and they'd still be in power. You don't need congress to work out deals and we keep our tax base and jobs here. Have fun being vindictive a holes for not taking action that was possible.

Bad actions shouldnt be taken. but really dont think you understand how really terrible this is for the country

[Barnabas]

Bad actions shouldnt be taken. but really dont think you understand how really terrible this is for the country

Well we could put them on welfare and obamacare instead of them paying taxes to pay for the lefts shitty programs? You'd probably prefer that right? To make them slaves to government programs?

[Cthulhu 2020]

10 years they keep their job and they aren't mcdonalds pay grade jobs. They keep it for pittance and when carrier adds new jobs all that tax revenue being exchanged comes back. And then some? I mean who cares?

10 years? Who said anything about 10 years? Certainly not Carrier, lol.

As I said, enjoy being extorted for tax dollars to prop up dying industries.

[araine]

President Obama saved 1.5 million jobs with his auto bailout.

http://www.reuters.com/article/autos...0JO0XU20131209

lets not get our hopes up here, trumpster dumpster and his followers think 1000 jobs is a major thing that shows how good he is and they are still firing a shitload of workers only in trumpster dumpster land can you label a massive firing of workers as see we are working for you guys see how good we are for you guys. really when all anyone with common sense sees is another massive amount of jobs lost due to trumpster dumpster giving government money away for free.

[Zan15]

You can criticize him all you want, he made a good deal, saved 1,000 people their jobs, and I guess he's gotten a lot of people steamed over his benevolence here.

lol the net is not 1000 jobs. technically the net is -800 jobs.

so he prevented a bigger net loss of jobs

so he is still not a job creator

so net -800 and -7 million dollars

[araine]

10 years? Who said anything about 10 years? Certainly not Carrier, lol.

As I said, enjoy being extorted for tax dollars to prop up dying industries.

we will soon enter the era of debt and deficit doesnt matter anymore. teaparty will die and republicans will screw the working people up like usual.

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lol the net is not 1000 jobs. technically the net is -800 jobs.

so he prevented a bigger net loss of jobs

so he is still not a job creator

so net -800 and -7 million dollars

very expensive and i can promise you none of those losing the jobs will see a fuking penny out of those millions given out in corporate WELFARE

[Barnabas]

10 years? Who said anything about 10 years? Certainly not Carrier, lol.

As I said, enjoy being extorted for tax dollars to prop up dying industries.

That's the agreement. Seems like you didn't read that part and instead choose to take an inflammatory position because you don't like trump? Yeah air conditioning is going away folks! Batman is giving us insider news!

[omfgreally]

we will soon enter the era of debt and deficit doesnt matter anymore. teaparty will die and republicans will screw the working people up like usual.
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very expensive and i can promise you none of those losing the jobs will see a fuking penny out of those millions given out in corporate WELFARE

Wow, really? the averous. They get to keep their jobs and not have to go and flip burgers. damn you are just on the wrong side of everything.

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lol the net is not 1000 jobs. technically the net is -800 jobs.
so he prevented a bigger net loss of jobs
so he is still not a job creator
so net -800 and -7 million dollars

Hmm. Still haven't seen the jobs created by Obama.
PoTUS's job isn't to make jobs, you still haven't figured that one out. Jobs are made by business.

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Notice these are democrat burner accounts all made on the same day...

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let's not forget the bailouts for Obama's donators for their dying industries. Talk about the Kettle and the pot, but this is always the hypocrisy of the left.

[Glorious Leader]

How do you know he made a good deal if you don't know the details of it yet? If you really think they changed their mind for a few hundred thousand in tax breaks, you're not living in the real world.

The plant was set save something like 69 million dollars from moving to mexico. Trump leaned on them and the 7.billion in federal contracts their parent company united technolodgies has. The tax savings are token gestures and will basically be used to buy back stocks.

[Glorious Leader]

So basically strong arming them? Such a win for the free market.

Thats precisely what it is and imo its fucking brilliant. This should.be government policy.

[Teriz]

He should have just given the laid off workers those tax dollars.

Carrier is just going to take the money and continue shipping jobs overseas.

[jdbond592]

Anyone wanna bet parent company was involved in these negotiations and they likely will reap benefits from coming defense contracts?

As I have said before, people who voted for Trump will not care for fine details. Worry over deficit, rising inflation, globalists etc. don't matter anymore.

[Glorious Leader]

Sounds like borderline communism. Controlling the means of production?

Not really. It only applies to government contracts. They are free to conduct business in the private sector. Of course the federal government is a huge buyer of goods and services so yea...

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He should have just given the laid off workers those tax dollars.

Carrier is just going to take the money and continue shipping jobs overseas.

The parent company is currently engaged in millions and millions of dollars of stock buy backs.