Heroic Helya orbs

[Nitros14]

They alternate targeting melee and ranged, the lowest threat tank role is always targeted as well, right?

Does each group have a chance to target healers? Do healers need to be aware on both groups?

[runique]

They alternate targeting melee and ranged, the lowest threat tank role is always targeted as well, right?

Does each group have a chance to target healers? Do healers need to be aware on both groups?

I think it's the tank that isn't currently tanking, a healer and a melee or ranged dps depending whose turn it is. I could be wrong and I cant look it up rn but that is what i remember. Also I don't know how it works in smaller groups if you arent getting three orbs.

[Reloe]

so it actually changed a little bit after they nerfed p2 of the encounter aswell (this applies only to normal&heroic, mythic still behaves differently I assume)
phase1: Tank that is not actively tanking + random healer + random range dps on odd waves or random melee dps on even waves
phase3: random healer + 2random range dps on odd waves or 2random melee dps on even waves. It used to target the nonactive tank here aswell but I guess with the mariner and healing reduce debuff from breath it was too hard to coordinate for some so they got rid off it.

Also for last phase Healers can't get 2orbs in a row, not sure if that applies to phase1 aswell.

[Tehterokkar]

so it actually changed a little bit after they nerfed p2 of the encounter aswell (this applies only to normal&heroic, mythic still behaves differently I assume)
phase1: Tank that is not actively tanking + random healer + random range dps on odd waves or random melee dps on even waves
phase3: random healer + 2random range dps on odd waves or 2random melee dps on even waves. It used to target the nonactive tank here aswell but I guess with the mariner and healing reduce debuff from breath it was too hard to coordinate for some so they got rid off it.

Also for last phase Healers can't get 2orbs in a row, not sure if that applies to phase1 aswell.

In P3 the "Melee orb" always targets 2 Melee + 1 Healer.

As for the bolded part, this is a weird one. In P1, if you get orb, you can't get it the next time, yes. But if any healer dies between the orb waves, it removes the immunity from being able to get one.

Source: +200 Mythic Helya Wipes.

[Thursley]

It used to target the nonactive tank here aswell but I guess with the mariner and healing reduce debuff from breath it was too hard to coordinate for some so they got rid off it.

Are you sure about this? I just pulled a bunch of heroic helya logs from last night and found one or the other tank would get orb of corrosion every wave: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ability=230267, https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ability=230267, https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ability=230267.

[Reloe]

Are you sure about this? I just pulled a bunch of heroic helya logs from last night and found one or the other tank would get orb of corrosion every wave: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ability=230267, https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ability=230267, https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ability=230267.

I did the boss on my alt tank yesterday and none of the 2tanks were getting targeted by orbs in p3 anymore, the only time it happened was on a wipe where not enough dps were left alive, not sure why it happened for those logs, here's my logs from last night, as you can see none of the tanks got an orb:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ability=230267

[Nitros14]

You're right. Orbs in the last phase are 2 ranged+healer then 2 melee+healer repeat.

Really makes life easier on the offtank.

Proof.

[Deleted]

You're right. Orbs in the last phase are 2 ranged+healer then 2 melee+healer repeat.

And you can get targeted twice in a row (as a healer). Source: just killed H Helya last night, was targeted by 2 orbs in a row in p3 (hpally) and we had everyone but 2 dps alive (out of 23).