Theres a good chance Trump would have won if it was a popular vote campaign as well. Keep in mind, the campaign and the policies would have been much different (to be fair, it would have on Hillary's end as well). Given that the election that happened was to win 270 electoral votes, and not to win the popular vote, it would be akin to complaining that a football team that achieved more yardage deserved to win over the one that scored the most points. B
I see the title of that video has you all confused and unable to listen to Obama's words. Here is a direct quote, highlighted so you can better understand it.
He CLEARLY acknowledges the fact you you have to be a citizen prior to voting.Not true. And the reason is first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself and there is not a situation where the voting rolls are somehow transferred over and people start investigating, etc.. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential
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Well, he certainly wasn't California's choice which is where Hillary beat Trump by a whopping 4 million voters. Accordingly, as set up in the US Constitution, California charged their electors(the people that actually vote for the president, not regular US citizens) to vote for Clinton. Clinton won 55 electoral votes from California.
Take away that 4mil gap from California, and Trump beats Clinton in the popular vote by nearly 2mil. rofl
We see things sometimes based on what we ether want to see/hear or what we do not want to see/hear. He only says when you vote, you are assumed to be a citizen ( not you are a legal one with the right to vote ) and there is no reason to fear because it is done in a private situation. In other words, if you make it to the voting stand, the chances of getting caught are slim and none.
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She cheated? Oh, you mean where she motivated her base by; crying, whining, complaining and moaning about the entire thing being rigged against her for two years? Oh wait that wasn't her. I'm not entirely sure how winning the popular vote by millions is an "ass kicking" but I guess we can pretend?
Finding extra votes? You mean all the ballots that still have to be hand counted after the election, even though that county/state was called early because there was a clear winner? How is her winning the popular vote by more than 2.5 million trying to undermine anything? Facts, are facts. What you do with the facts is something else entirely, but claiming anything was magically "lost" and then found is disingenuous to say the least and shows and unclear understanding of the election process.
B) Um no they didn't. Read your own article.
Some states are hesitant to purge voter rolls, because it leaves out minorities who might have skipped an election or two. Traditionally Republicans, even in 2016 campaigned to purge voter rolls as often as possible in an effort to hope that those unaware wouldn't register in time and they would be guaranteed a win in that state. Yes this leaves deceased sometimes on the rolls, and people registered in 2 states, but find me a statistic on how often someones presents an ID with their photo on a deceased person's card or drives to the state of their previous residence and votes twice. It's so minuscule that you can't.24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid."
All that spin and none of it even accurate...
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I like how we have come full circle with Democrats pushing for an end to electronic voting machines, after calling for an end to paper ballots in 2000. Maybe just accept it a little better when you lose?
In this case, you are reading assumed, where he clearly states "you are a citizen", not you might be. In fact, let's go with he meant assume that when you vote you are a citizen, that still doesn't turn it into him encouraging illegal immigrants to vote.
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I don't understand how 'hanging chad' is coming full circle when the issue now is electronic machines. Yeah, I bitched about Comcast service, switched to their XFinity service and then cancelled their service because that was terrible as well. That's not coming full circle, that's a solution creating a different problem.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
What do you call a system like that because it is not democrazy
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Hillary said that if Trump didn't accept the results of the election it would be a "direct threat to democracy". Now Hillary and Jill Stein are demanding all these recounts. Such hypocrites lol
This is a fallacy that needs to go away
The US is a democracy...the was the US defines republic is just a democracy in another name. A representative democracy is still a democracy, its still a part of the republican - a government by the people for the people. The US is a true a democracy as any another. Not being a direct democracy doesn't make not a democracy nor is the US government without influence of the popular vote. Even the EC must uphold the popular vote is must states and it others its just never been challenged.
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