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    Quote Originally Posted by badzerath View Post
    Does he get any points deducted for predicting China's collapse for like, the last decade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by badzerath View Post
    I suggest you look up the terms propaganda and gullible.

    Both apply here. One to that video and the other to you.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    I guess the GOP is the party of federal central management of the economy now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Aaaand just like the Carrier deal the more you read the less this is.
    I just read is going to put $1 million cash in my pocket, personally. So you don't know what you are talking about.
    Democrats are the best! I will never ever question a Democrat again. I LOVE the Democrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokoshne View Post
    this is how it starts. foreign companies invest in your countries infrastructure, and then they milk your citizens dry, all profits go offshore and you end up with a country being destroyed from within.

    It should be treasonous for a country, or president, to allow this.
    No, you clearly don't understand. Capitalism=gud.

    Everything done previous to Trump=bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Aaaand just like the Carrier deal the more you read the less this is.
    You have to understand, Wells, reading is very hard for a portion of the population. It's not their fault really, they're just so used to being told what to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    I guess the GOP is the party of federal central management of the economy now?
    I propose we call it 'brainless dirigism'.

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    So what's the ultimate cost to the tax payers for all these deals he's making? If it truly is just bluster, not much. But if he's actually making these deals, where is all this money coming from? He's not just convincing them with a golden tongue, there always has to be incentive. So we get 50,000 jobs and that costs us how much? We're paying some money just right up for the jobs themselves, then more for incentives, tax breaks, tax credits, reductions, bribes, etc.

    Don't worry though, as the federal deficit and debt start ballooning exponentially, and the economy breaks, we can just elect in a Democrat who will fix everything for us. And when we point out it was Trump's spending that got us into this mess, faithful old @zenkai can jump in every time and go "STOP BLAMING THINGS TRUMP DID ON TRUMP! (New Democrat president) IS THE PRESIDENT NOW! IT'S HIS FAULT!"
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    What would it take for those on the left to see Trump in a positive light?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Batman View Post
    So what's the ultimate cost to the tax payers for all these deals he's making? If it truly is just bluster, not much. But if he's actually making these deals, where is all this money coming from? He's not just convincing them with a golden tongue, there always has to be incentive. So we get 50,000 jobs and that costs us how much? We're paying some money just right up for the jobs themselves, then more for incentives, tax breaks, tax credits, reductions, bribes, etc.

    Don't worry though, as the federal deficit and debt start ballooning exponentially, and the economy breaks, we can just elect in a Democrat who will fix everything for us. And when we point out it was Trump's spending that got us into this mess, faithful old @zenkai can jump in every time and go "STOP BLAMING THINGS TRUMP DID ON TRUMP! (New Democrat president) IS THE PRESIDENT NOW! IT'S HIS FAULT!"
    Not sure the Carrier deal was 7 mill over the course of a decade though in exchange for roughly 800 jobs.
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badzerath View Post
    A political figure in America could literally cure cancer and their opponents would find a way to dismiss and attack.

    That's because American politics has dissolved into majorities of people who think the other side wants to personally harm them as opposed to two viewpoints trying to reach the same ends. A prosperous America.

    As to the news itself, it is good. The people directly responsible claim they were especially motivated by Trump's victory and their meetings with him. He is also some-what popular in Japan because of his stance on America's global defense of allied nations - such as Japan - and his thinking that they should be "allowed" to defend themselves. So it seems consistent something like this would happen to strengthen that relationship.

    So far he has saved some jobs from leaving the country, earned private sector investments for new jobs, and encouraged control spending that directly affects him.

    But you know he is the incarnation of evil, a racist, a xenophobe (married to a foreigner), blah blah blah

    About those jobs. He only delayed the inevitable. Carrier is going to invest 16 million into automation at their plant to remove most of the job they said they were keeping here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    What would it take for those on the left to see Trump in a positive light?
    If he really is bringing all these jobs back with just a golden tongue, I'll be impressed. But I'm seriously doubtful that's anywhere near what's going on.
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    Not sure the Carrier deal was 7 mill over the course of a decade though in exchange for roughly 800 jobs.
    Those jobs won't be there in a decade. No chance. Carrier is planning to automate them away. The carrier CEO Greg Hayes has already said so. The prior plan was to ship the jobs out. Now its keep them on while they automate then give them the boot.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/05/cnbc-...mer-today.html

    GREG HAYES: Right. Well, and again, if you think about what we talked about last week we're gonna make up $16 million investment in that factory in Indianapolis to automate to drive the cost down so that we can continue to be competitive. Now is it as cheap as moving to Mexico with lower cost labor? No. But we will make that plant competitive just because we'll make the capital investments there.

    JIM CRAMER: Right.

    GREG HAYES: But what that ultimately means is there will be fewer jobs.
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Those jobs won't be there in a decade. No chance. Carrier is planning to automate them away. The carrier CEO Greg Hayes has already said so. The prior plan was to ship the jobs out. Now its keep them on while they automate then give them the boot.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/05/cnbc-...mer-today.html

    Best part is. Guess who is paying for half of that now. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    What would it take for those on the left to see Trump in a positive light?
    Him, actually doing something worthwhile...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Him, actually doing something worthwhile...?
    What did Obama do that was worthwhile?
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    What did Obama do that was worthwhile?
    Pulled the economy back from the '08 recession.

    Pulled out of Iraq.

    Got Congress to ratify a deal with Russia that cut nuclear warheads by about ~1/3 and silos in half.

    Amongst other things. Should I carry on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Pulled the economy back from the '08 recession.

    Pulled out of Iraq.

    Got Congress to ratify a deal with Russia that cut nuclear warheads by about ~1/3 and silos in half.

    Amongst other things. Should I carry on?
    What did Obama personally do to pull the economy out of recession.

    We are still in Iraq, and if you count 2011 that was a Bush policy

    and as far as the nuke deal goes http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ru...-idUSKCN12521J
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

  18. #58
    Well what's the catch?

    There has literally been a catch for every single "good" thing Trump or his ilk have spouted out as a victory.

    I'm certainly not going to take a Fox Business News video as nonpartisan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    It's not clear to me what Trump actually did to facilitate this. If it is indeed as simple as influencing a merger in their favor, then this would likely end up being another instance of walking away from the negotiating table with a coupon for half off one small soft drink with the purchase of a burger at menu price.
    Hmm..... why did the CEO meet up with Trump prior to the announcement then? Also, he pretty much said Trump's policies are the reason why they decided to do this lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Well what's the catch?

    There has literally been a catch for every single "good" thing Trump or his ilk have spouted out as a victory.

    I'm certainly not going to take a Fox Business News video as nonpartisan.

    Catch is, Deal was pretty much already on the board before Trump even touched anything.

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