I like to imagine that the Reverse Flash we're seeing this season in Legends of Tomorrow is from a time right after Nora Allen was murdered. He returns Barry to the present, having undone Flashpoint, and runs off to go play with Damien Darhk and the Legion of Doom. The Legends of Tomorrow season finale comes around next year, and Eobard gets onboard the Waverider again after the Legends thwart their plans once and for all. He steals Gideon, and plans to use her knowledge to make another attempt on Barry's life in the past. As he jumps into the Speed Force, Amaya blasts him with a powered-up version of the anti-speedster gun seen in the LoT midseason finale. He reappears on the street outside of Barry's house, and stumbles.
Eobard: Gideon, what's happening to me?
Gideon: Your latest time jump against The Flash caused a massive drain on your powers. Your cells contain no trace of The Speed Force.
Eobard: That's impossible!
End Season 2 of Legends of Tomorrow, and begin Season 1 of the Flash.
I know this won't happen, but it's nice to dream.
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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Remember, "Wells" was spending all his time sitting in a wheelchair with a speed battery under the seat charging him up (which for all we know might've been powered by proximity to Barry). It was never fully explained why Reverse Flash lost his powers except an absence of Speed Force in his cells "caused by his latest time jump", but we do know he assumed Wells identity in order to make Barry become the Flash faster so he could use Barry's speed to get home sooner.
Or it could just be that Eobard did lose his speed because he killed Barry's mom and changed his own past/future, but post-Flashpoint it happened differently. Either one works for me.
I think it's the party line of this being the RF that has tangled with Future Barry for a long time before heading back to kill Nora Allen. It would be neat if he grabs a copy of Gideon, if not the original, but hard to say. It'd also be neat if they acquire the Spear of Destiny, the one artifact that will empower the Reverse Flash to travel through time and kill Nora Allen or something, but eh.
It is a little tedious with Savitar and RF though, that we have these super villains that have been so soundly defeated by the great Flash that they travel back in time to screw him over...
At some point I think I'd rather see these epic battles that drove them to time travel, rather than year 3 of "Flash is just learning".
"I only feel two things Gary, nothing, and nothingness."
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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you.. you do know that this is the cw right? just because its a comic book show doesnt mean their demographic has changed..
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aliens tried to conquer earth because of flashpoint. not nearly as huge as in the comics but its not like nothing happened. not to mention they have said more and more changes from flashpoint will be shown.
like, did you even watch the show past the first episode this season? because i highly doubt future barry sent a message to rip hunter warning him about the timeline just because iris was upset with joe for like 2 episodes dude
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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the main problem with this season is everyone being emo at barry because of flashpoint. wally hasnt even suited up yet and outside of the one episode where caitlyn freaked out about turning evil she hasnt used her powers except to make it snow at christmas.
i would say skip everything until the killer frost episode and then watch the crossover and the mid season finale.
it looks like its going to be pretty good from here on out but so far this season id say arrow is the best show with legends having the most fun.
this season of arrow if it holds up in the next half will probably be the best of the series since its gone back to its season 1 roots
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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You know, it would have been great if Arrow was a sniper for hire or something. At the least it's a shame we missed Citizen Cold. It also sucked that they already wasted the "electrocute Barry" power-back thing last season with Zoom. There was a lot they could have done, but just didn't.
Another odd thing is that they seem to refer to him returning the timeline as Flashpoint sometimes, vs the alternate "saved mother" timeline being Flashpoint, but that could just be my perception.
And lastly, the lack of big changes in the Flashpoint timeline really made his reversing it seem off. He saved his parents and Rival killed Wally, but otherwise... what was so bad? What was so wrong? Cisco being wealthy? Heck, for that matter, would Wally have died if Flash hadn't tried to help?
"I only feel two things Gary, nothing, and nothingness."
flashpoint is what all major changes that cause split timelines are called, atleast when speedsters do it. the side effects cause speedsters to lose their memories of the old timeline slowly, and since barry never was the flash in wallys timeline that would mean at some point barry wouldve lost all memory of his old life to the point he wouldnt even be able to access the speedforce anymore.
or atleast thats what reverse flash claimed.
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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Honestly......of all 4 shows, I've enjoyed Legends the most this year, followed by.......Supergirl. It's bizarre.
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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Supergirl and Arrow have been mostly good for me, Legends is just a bit too silly with their time traveling, and Flash just seems to be lacking something.
"I only feel two things Gary, nothing, and nothingness."
I think I really just like them playing dress up in different time periods while ignoring the fact that two of them are black and would be shunned in most time periods they visit........except for the one time being black in a racist place was the B storyline in, of all places, Nazi Germany.
Yeah, one of my complaints with Legends is that they ignore race/sex unless they want to hit you over the head with it. For folks that time travel to fix stuff, they break stuff too much. Most episodes are fun, last episode was bleh, but the team dynamic doesn't do a lot for me.
Flash has always had a good family vibe, but they rely too much on manufactured drama some times. It is the CW though, not sure if folks have seen the Riverdale teaser, but it is almost hilarious how dark it is with drama, looked like Vampire Diaries more than Archie & Jughead. :-p
"I only feel two things Gary, nothing, and nothingness."