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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Yeah no. The point is Trump isn't sympathetic to these ideas. The republicans hold power in all branches. Trump is their leader. He can make it all happen if he wants to and pushes hard enough. Threats of being primaried would see to that.

    The fact that he isn't going to make it happen isn't because he's sympathetic and he's being blocked, its because he isn't sympathetic in the first place.

    I.e. You have been conned.
    If he isnt truly sympathetic to right wing ideas that would make him more centrist or friendly to leftist ideas. It's okay if Trump tries to reach across the aisle and also has some positions that Democrats might like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImpTaimer View Post
    I read the article. It made claims that aren't real. You say the video supports the article. I doubt it.

    Prove me wrong. Alternate link.
    No, you made a wild claim, it's your job to support your claim.

    The video is there, you disprove the video. That's how this works. You can't just doubt a video you haven't even watched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Of course they won't.

    They'll make excuses and try to spin it in a way that rationalizes the situation and pushes the blame away from them, like they've been doing for everything Trump says. Cult of Personality is a powerful thing for the uneducated.
    Replace "Trump" with "Obama" and you have the last 8 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    I'm a straight shooter like Donny boy okay? Criticize me and I may just win the next election!
    Ad hominem is the opposite of straight shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    No, you made a wild claim, it's your job to support your claim.

    The video is there, you disprove the video. That's how this works. You can't just doubt a video you haven't even watched.
    Yes I can. How is it hard to provide an alternate link? I can't even watch it because it won't load.

    However, regardless if I watched it or not, you don't seem intent to support the video as a source for the "wild claims" the article made. Rather you dismiss me for not watching it.

    Please get a reality check.
    There are no bathrooms, only Zuul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Must.... tell people to be... christians... must tell them..... that.....gays are evil....
    Yes, the religious right used to have free reign to tell folks how to think, it was bad, don't be like them Genn.
    "It doesn't matter if you believe me or not but common sense doesn't really work here. You're mad, I'm mad. We're all MAD here."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    Ad hominem is the opposite of straight shooting.
    The results of this election disprove that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImpTaimer View Post
    Yes I can. How is it hard to provide an alternate link? I can't even watch it because it won't load.

    However, regardless if I watched it or not, you don't seem intent to support the video as a source for the "wild claims" the article made. Rather you dismiss me for not watching it.

    Please get a reality check.
    Because I'm not going to sit there and try to dig through Youtube to find a video for you just because you refuse to believe there's one there that support the article. I'm not your search engine honestly, you said there's no source on the article, I told you the source is in the video right on the article. Now you're claiming because it won't load, so you must be right? Also yet again, burden of proof is on you, since you're the one who claimed the article has no source. Prove it has no source then. Don't go around asking for others to give you the source you don't believe.

    And yes, I dismiss your argument, because the video literally has exactly what the article says in it. Trump saying “That plays great before the election ... nah, we don’t care.".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    Yes, the religious right used to have free reign to tell folks how to think, it was bad, don't be like them Genn.
    No... the power... you unlocked... it ...bel...longs to them....


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    Quote Originally Posted by taliey View Post
    So you're saying they'll rationalize that they actually wanted to be lied to and that they were totally in on the bullshit to begin with.

    The 'i was pretending to be retarded' strategy?
    Something like that.

    They've already started. Look at the excuses made for him filling his cabinet with the rich, lobbyist and career politicians. "Oh well we knew he wasn't going to get rid of them!"

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    2020.

    It's going to be X's turn. All Dems need to do if find the someone who represents X with just enough resentment to rebel but not revolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    Trump has right wing ideas. The opposite of left wing policy on the economy and the type of role and size of the government in certain areas. The idea that right wingers somehow got hustled is ridiculous.
    ya man, look at him draining the swamp with the most swampiest of the swamp: he's filling his administration with career politicians, bankers, and lobbyists, the very same people he promised to kick out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    If he isnt truly sympathetic to right wing ideas that would make him more centrist or friendly to leftist ideas. I'm okay with Trump trying to reach across the aisle and also having some positions that Democrats might like.
    What on earth?

    The ability to explain away the unexplainable of you Trumpists is amazing. What bit of "you have been conned" don't you get?

    It has nothing to do with reaching across the isle.
    It has nothing to do with being centrist.
    It has nothing to do with being democrat friendly.

    He is a plutocrat and espouses plutocrat beliefs (see all the CEO's and billionaires he's making part of his cabinet). He said one thing to get your vote so he could fill the swamp up to the brim, and now is doing the other (filling aforesaid swamp-brim).

    If he was sympathetic to the causes of the base voters that elected him he could force through those causes given the fear of being primaried. He has made it pretty plain he isn't going to. But neither is he a democrat sympathist.

    The reality is, he is everything the democrats warned you he was but which you did not believe. You have been conned.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    No... the power... you unlocked... it ...bel...longs to them....

    I dont think Broly ever wins.
    "It doesn't matter if you believe me or not but common sense doesn't really work here. You're mad, I'm mad. We're all MAD here."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Because I'm not going to sit there and try to dig through Youtube to find a video for you just because you refuse to believe there's one there that support the article. I'm not your search engine honestly, you said there's no source on the article, I told you the source is in the video right on the article. Now you're claiming because it won't load, so you must be right? Also yet again, burden of proof is on you, since you're the one who claimed the article has no source. Prove it has no source then. Don't go around asking for others to give you the source you don't believe.

    And yes, I dismiss your argument, because the video literally has exactly what the article says in it. Trump saying “That plays great before the election ... nah, we don’t care.".
    Nice little rage-rant you got there.

    You don't have to provide work because it's the OP's argument, not yours. All you have to say is "I don't have one. Sorry."

    Not sure why you're insistent on projecting yourself at me.

    Take a seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspellz View Post
    ya man, look at him draining the swamp with the most swampiest of the swamp: he's filling his administration with career politicians, bankers, and lobbyists, the very same people he promised to kick out.
    He is largely a right winger filling positions with people who support industry. This is only bad if you're a leftist.

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    Would cost the Taxpayer to much, to "lock her up"
    best to put an ankle bracelet on her and keep her under house arrest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    I dont think Broly ever wins.
    He won the hearts and minds of the fan base

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiedude View Post
    Would cost the Taxpayer to much, to "lock her up"
    best to put an ankle bracelet on her and keep her under house arrest.
    Honestly, i think having to live with losing to trump is a form of punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    He won the hearts and minds of the fan base
    Well..dam..point to you good sir.
    "It doesn't matter if you believe me or not but common sense doesn't really work here. You're mad, I'm mad. We're all MAD here."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImpTaimer View Post
    Nice little rage-rant you got there.

    You don't have to provide work because it's the OP's argument, not yours. All you have to say is "I don't have one. Sorry."

    Not sure why you're insistent on projecting yourself at me.

    Take a seat.
    I'm really baffled honestly how you're trying to turn this into me claiming something when you're the one who said that this is a fake news article with no source (while having no proof of this), and then when I pointed out the article HAS the source right in it, you started getting defensive and claimed I had to provide you with the source.

    But okay, it's clear you obviously have no intention of actually supporting your own argument, so how about you just come back later and try seeing if the video works then.

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