Toxic terms from Hitler’s era trending in Germany

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Its a word.

Its a word that I don't like.

Let me find sometime else that word was used.

Hitler.

Hitler was bad.

Word is bad.

A breakdown of the thought process of the left.

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It's not about skincolor, it's about difference in cultures. Multiculturalism in Europe has never worked before and it's not going to work now.

It has worked though.

Look at the previous waves of migration to the UK from peoples all over our Empire, particularly the Indian and West Indies migrants. At this point they are as British as anyone else.

Sure there rough patches, but they were worked through (mostly).

[Ravenblade]

I like celebrating cultural holidays, like St Martin's day.

Numerous German local authorities renamed their celebration to (along the lines of) "The celebration of the moon and stars". This was done so as to not "offend" anyone. This is utterly stupid.

Is it wrong, or racist, to state you'd like to preserve your cultural heritage by celebrating festivals that have been observed for centuries? And that anyone who finds them offensive can bugger off?

They really did that? I know there was a hot debate about that three(!) years ago in NRW some years ago, it was a proposal by the over-eager head of Die Linke in NRW, it met rejection by the party's basis, the Catholic dioceses and even the central council of Muslims in Germany. Ultimately it was never realized and there is no known instance of it actually happening let alone an official policy. If even very Left politicians reject that level of political correctness then you know that it's unlikely to ever become a mass phenomenon. Even leftist cities like my state capitol enjoy official support for St. Martin's Day, Christmas fairs and other renamed ancient Germanic festivities.

There's also a lot BS fearmongering which gets even reinforced across the party spectrum in Germany, it's even funnier that once it sept in people start changing the tone of said rumour to end up as truth, so in some cases things which never happened turned out as having actually occurred in some people's minds. Like that perpetuated lie that Muslims raided zoo in Halberstadt for goats, even when the zoo direction denied of happening at all and being a massive load of hogwash, you know, they would be told to be part of collaborating with Muslims and just trying to cover up the truth.

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Ofc Tennisace uses meaningless buzzwords like ''toxic'', what a surprise

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okay.

Could we please stop?

Yes there are some words which probably shouldn't be used anymore but I rarely hear any of those.
Words suhc as "Überfremdung" may occur in hitler's speeches but does it it automatically make this word wrong?

I do not support the AfD or any right wing party but this word kinda makes sense to me.
Some areas in germany were getting flooded by migrants during the last 20 years.
They build their own communities in which they prefer to talk their native languages.

In those areas I would say the term "überfremdung" makes sense since those places aren't german anymore.
They start thier own shops, barbers and everything else. They try to avoid talking german as much as possible. (especially older people)
Due to not being forced to talk/learn german on a dialy basis they will most likely end up speaking poor/broken german,
This broken german will end up with them not being able to support their children in school which leads directly into unemplyoment.

Those places are failures. In most of those areas the poverty, unemployment and crime rates are off the charts. (most of the time)
With the recent wave of refugees the amount of those communities have increased because the goverment does not force them to live seperated from eachother.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to live germany. I'm saying that the goverment can not allow them to create their own communitites.
Those places will hardly ever have a chance to become integrated in the german society. (because it's easier for them to stick to russian/arabic/turkish)
It's the goverment's responsibility to make sure that especially refugees are getting intergrated in our society.

There's nothing wrong with talking to your friends/family in your native tongue but once you can get away with hardly ever speaking the local language then we have a problem.

[Mayhem]

It's like a broken record. I never denied that the word was used heavily by the nazis, perhaps they even have spoken this word as the first ones. They might have also defined what it means for them.
But that does not mean that the word "Umvolkung" does not have an own, intrensic meaning, that is completely independent from the Nazis definition and self explaining.
You've just shown it yourself with your examples, words that seem to make no sense at first glance like "Fahrzeugung" just need to be seen from a certain context and then they define themselves.

The nazis came up with the word umvolkung and defined it´s meaning, period.

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Well, to be fair.. we never use, people probably never heard it, yet they still understand what was being said.

I guess the correct usage would be "die Umvölkerung" though.

Bevölkerung - be-völkern
Entvölkerung - ent-völkern

I'd go with Um-völkerung - um-völkern... it's not like the word itself wouldn't make sense. I don't know why they didn't use that term and decided to (I don't know the english word for that) "noun-ing" a word that is already a noun.

Even umvölkern or Umvölkerung doesn´t exist. Yes you can make it up, sure but unless it´s in the dictionary it´s nothing but a made up term by you, that people might or maybe understand but surely never use.

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They're words. If you try to censor them, they'll just use different words to say the same thing.

That´s the thing, those different words don´t sound all that harmless.

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Its a word.

Its a word that I don't like.

Let me find sometime else that word was used.

Hitler.

Hitler was bad.

Word is bad.

A breakdown of the thought process of the left.

That word was literally invented by the nazis.

[stomination]

I tried to warn you...

You can't kill a thought. The more you crack down on "wrong think" the more it spreads and grows. As germans suffer more and more from immigrants they will start to look to the past with fondness drawing strength from the imagine of what they once were.

You want to stop it? I honestly don't think it can be stopped "current year" is comming to a close and with it the far right is taking power from the far left.

You are about to see a whole new brand of crazy soon and it is gonna be fun.

That's how WW2 started. After WW1 and Germany being left in a fucked up state all they could think about was how things were before.

While stupid it did work to get the citizenry to go with hitler.

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That's how WW2 started. After WW1 and Germany being left in a fucked up state all they could think about was how things were before.

While stupid it did work to get the citizenry to go with hitler.

That´s like, not even remotely comparable.

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The nazis came up with the word umvolkung and defined it´s meaning, period.

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Even umvölkern or Umvölkerung doesn´t exist. Yes you can make it up, sure but unless it´s in the dictionary it´s nothing but a made up term by you, that people might or maybe understand but surely never use.

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That´s the thing, those different words don´t sound all that harmless.

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That word was literally invented by the nazis.

What's wrong with you/that. So was "Blitzkrieg" and now the whole word uses that word to describe the WW2 Wehrmacht's military tactic. That word was made up too, it's just that "Umvolkung" leads to you being a racist (due to guilt) while "Blitzkrieg" is like a "proud moment of german's military history" - so obviously we are allowed to say that then.

And as I said earlier it's not even like we want to "umvolk" (lulz) other people, but the woman was complaining that it is about to happen to us. And they are mad that she used a Nazi word to describe a thing that she feels was caused by our goverment.

[Mayhem]

What's wrong with you/that. So was "Blitzkrieg" and now the whole word uses that word to describe the WW2 Wehrmacht's military tactic. That word was made up too, it's just that "Umvolkung" leads to you being a racist (due to guilt) while "Blitzkrieg" is like a "proud moment of german's military history" - so obviously we are allowed to say that then.

And as I said earlier it's not even like we want to "umvolk" (lulz) other people, but the woman was complaining that it is about to happen to us. And they are mad that she used a Nazi word to describe a thing that she feels was caused by our goverment.

Actually blitzkrieg wasn´t invented by the nazis per se but by the wehrmacht, there´s a wide difference between making up terms to move your propaganda machinery or creating a term to describe something that hasn´t happened befor because it wasn´t possible. Also that term made it in the dictionary, therefor it has a definition you can look up. It´s not about a term used or coined by the nazis but a term right out of the nazi propaganda playbook.

[Blobfish]

Blitz the German aerial campaign against Britain in the Second World War

NFL : Blitz a type of defensive maneuver

Seattle Seahawks: Blitz =name of Seahawks mascot.

[Artaxerxes]

If this is the case, then Volkswagen should be renamed, as its name (the people's car) clearly has Nazi (short for National Socialism) origins.

I wonder how they are going to censor the words. Is Merkel going to have to go authoritarian (lol, the irony) on them?

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They're words. If you try to censor them, they'll just use different words to say the same thing.

And the meaning behind those words is what has disgusted people in the past, but now you have people brazen enough to use the exact words/phrasing used in the past.

[stabetha]

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...n-germany.html



This is very very troubling.

I hope Chancellor Merkel clamps down on this in her next term in office. Time to take off the gloves.

Hitler used the word "troubling" when refering to free speach, YOU ARE A NAZI.

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It's not the words, it's the context that matters. This thread is just another drama attempt.

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Actually blitzkrieg wasn´t invented by the nazis per se but by the wehrmacht, there´s a wide difference between making up terms to move your propaganda machinery or creating a term to describe something that hasn´t happened befor because it wasn´t possible. Also that term made it in the dictionary, therefor it has a definition you can look up. It´s not about a term used or coined by the nazis but a term right out of the nazi propaganda playbook.

The term itself was invented somewhere in 1930 or earlier... it wasn't in the duden though so it must have been a "made up word".
The Wehrmacht rarely used the word themselves and it was used extremely often for propaganda purposes. At least that's what the internet tells us.
So in that regard, the word should be banned too because Nazi used it the most/excessively and was part of the nazi propaganda playbook. It was quite literally the Nazis that made the word (you know, the word that didn't exist before) go viral and we even have it in our dict. because of them. Such a bad word!

[Mayhem]

The term itself was invented somewhere in 1930 or earlier... it wasn't in the duden though so it must have been a "made up word".
The Wehrmacht rarely used the word themselves and it was used extremely often for propaganda purposes. At least that's what the internet tells us.
So in that regard, the word should be banned too because Nazi used it the most/excessively and was part of the nazi propaganda playbook.

The term was used first in a military magazine in 1935...

I´m not arguing about words created at that time that made it in the dictionary, i´m arguing about a word that to this date is only used in form of nazi propaganda, like in the example given in this very thread.

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https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...n-germany.html



This is very very troubling.

I hope Chancellor Merkel clamps down on this in her next term in office. Time to take off the gloves.

None of those words are nazi n as for "lying media" not a nazi term...That's like anyone who thinks CNN r liars is automatically a nazi...
You also forget that established parties, media ruined their reputation before hitler even came to power due to them leading the country into economic disaster.

Btw doesn't Hillary use the term "fake news" I guess we should conclude she's a nazi??

Why is TA allowed to make all these stupid troll threads?

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It's not the words, it's the context that matters. This thread is just another drama attempt.

Tennispro creating post that stirs drama?
Oh that can't be true.

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Funny thread. As a guy actually living in germany i noticed quite some shit in my hometown. media won't cover it - how is that even acceptable?
When a syrian refugee abducted,raped and killed a small girl any description of that guy was censored from newspapers because it "would increase hate against immigrants".
friend of mine built her house next to a to-be refugee home. guess who can't ler her daughter go to school on her own. 6 out of 15 female classmates were either stalked to their homes, blocked from exiting public toilets or harassed by groups of 4 and more refugees.. fun times