Someone help me understand why Trump is supported as a president.

[isuridedes]

Trump won by spouting a series of half-truths and outright lies. He convinced a large swath of disenfranchised voters that their struggles and hardships are the result of immigrants, of refugees, and of "the liberal agenda". He promised them change and they bought into the lie. Every day since winning Trump has backed down on his various promises, but those people who voted for him bend themselves backwards to accommodate these backtracks into a narrative that fits their original premise of why they voted for him.

TLDR: Cognitive Dissonance

[TITAN308]

Trump won by spouting a series of half-truths and outright lies. He convinced a large swath of disenfranchised voters that their struggles and hardships are the result of immigrants, of refugees, and of "the liberal agenda". He promised them change and they bought into the lie. Every day since winning Trump has backed down on his various promises, but those people who voted for him bend themselves backwards to accommodate these backtracks into a narrative that fits their original premise of why they voted for him.

TLDR: Cognitive Dissonance

I didn't vote for Trump (sort of sad this disclaimer must be posted every single time), but with that said...

...maybe they are just smarter than you think. The voters played the part as a means to an end. That end not being Clinton.

/tinfoil hat

My point being, treating people like a bunch of morons didn't work the first time. Protip: Probably not gonna work a second time either lol

[zenkai]

Really, man? Really? I thought better of you. You should really read your own sig before implying Trump is less of a LIEar than Hillary.

Didn't know making a pun of Hillary's name determined who I think lies the most, but I will say it is Hillary just because she has a longer History in politics.

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Trump won by spouting a series of half-truths and outright lies. He convinced a large swath of disenfranchised voters that their struggles and hardships are the result of immigrants, of refugees, and of "the liberal agenda". He promised them change and they bought into the lie. Every day since winning Trump has backed down on his various promises, but those people who voted for him bend themselves backwards to accommodate these backtracks into a narrative that fits their original premise of why they voted for him.

TLDR: Cognitive Dissonance

Looking at the turn out I don't see it that way. Last election Obama got 65 million votes, Hillary got 65 million votes, if you want to point fingers point it all those dumbass protesters who are marching but didn't even bother voting.

[Dadwen]

Really, man? Really? I thought better of you. You should really read your own sig before implying Trump is less of a LIEar than Hillary.

It's not always about who's less of a liar in politics it's about who's the better liar. (or in this case oddly enough people decided better the devil they didn't know)

[isuridedes]

My point being, treating people like a bunch of morons didn't work the first time. Protip: Probably not gonna work a second time either lol

I don't know how well the "Clinton lost because she treated people like morons" argument holds. Trump won and he treated people like morons, too. Probably better to say that Trump knew what lies to sell those idiots more than Clinton did.

Trump promised them a Wall, and an end to illegal immigrants. He promised them mass deportations and to criminally prosecute Hillary Clinton for the crimes she'd already been acquitted of. Experts on Constitutional law stepped forward outlining why these promises couldn't be kept. Members of Congress flat out stated that they wouldn't support X or Y Trump agenda, or that something he claimed he could do as President actually required the cooperation of the Legislative branch, etc, etc.

But Trump's bet paid off. He knew his base wouldn't bother with fact-checking, and he knew he could lie to them and tell them "Fact-checking" was just "media bias". He knew that Reality TV was more entertaining than actually discussing the issues so he gave them a performance.

And now he's President-Elect and he's backing down from so many of his campaign promises. A subset of his base is waking up to that reality, but a vast majority are doing cartwheels to frame 'backing down' as 'doubling down'.

[Revik]

He is supported because he won our democratic election and the citizens here believe that to be the will of the people and a peaceful transition of power. Now it is the country's best interest for all citizens to support our new president and our country because if our country succeeds then we all succeed.

These are not my words these are Obama's words and Clinton's words.

[LaserSharkDFB]

It's not always about who's less of a liar in politics it's about who's the better liar. (or in this case oddly enough people decided better the devil they didn't know)

Wouldn't the better liar be the one that doesn't get caught in blatant falsehoods all the time, even going so far as to deny that he said the things he said five minutes earlier?

[Kujako]

Simple answer, he's not HilLIEry.

Billions of people fit that criteria. Why out of all of them, did you pick Trump?

[TITAN308]

I don't know how well the "Clinton lost because she treated people like morons" argument holds. Trump won and he treated people like morons, too. Probably better to say that Trump knew what lies to sell those idiots more than Clinton did.

Doubling down. Bold move. Lets see how it pans out!

*crowd goes wild*

[Dadwen]

Wouldn't the better liar be the one that doesn't get caught in blatant falsehoods all the time, even going so far as to deny that he said the things he said five minutes earlier?

Again it's not about being who's caught or not caught it's about who's the better liar (Saying the right thing at the right time to the right people, just about the entire make up of politicking for better or worse *and the best at worming their way out of it when caught).

Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other - Oscar Ameringer,

but to the statements he's not Hillary, I stand by, for once people decided to pick the devil they didn't know in this case.

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Billions of people fit that criteria. Why out of all of them, did you pick Trump?

Only a few out of those billion were running and none of them seemed to have a chance to beat her so, they voted for the one out of the limited choices that they believe could.

[Xandrigity]

Voters chose whatever was the lessor of two evils, to them. I would have preferred Kasich but when faced with only two choices really everyone has to decide which is better/worse.

[zenkai]

Billions of people fit that criteria. Why out of all of them, did you pick Trump?

I said from the begging Hillary wouldn't win, they could put up a clown and she would still lose. Fast forward a year later, not only was I right about Hillary not winning, they even put up a clown!

[isuridedes]

Doubling down. Bold move. Lets see how it pans out!

Would you prefer a more politically-correct word? Shall I refer to Trump supporters as 'gullible' or 'deceived' or 'betrayed'? All of these apply, as virtually ever campaign promise he made them to secure their votes has been walked away from if not outright broken in the most egregious of fashions.

I'm not going to lose sleep over pointing out that anyone who voted for Trump based on his campaign promises has been duped. All the evidence you need is right there on his own Twitter feed.

[atlings]

As for my vote for Trump. Very simple. Hes anti PC. The single most important issue to me in the US right now is preserving individual liberties and freedom of speech. If that pisses you off, cool, im all about individual liberties.

You think? Trump is the only one talking about suing critics and denying the press access. Not sure what those liberty preserves are about.

[Fencers]

it invalidates my commentary because YOU say it does? LOL - fucking please.

Your comment is made invalid because it's a rhetorical fallacy. You can look up the subject yourself.

[Deleted]

Would you prefer a more politically-correct word? Shall I refer to Trump supporters as 'gullible' or 'deceived' or 'betrayed'? All of these apply, as virtually ever campaign promise he made them to secure their votes has been walked away from if not outright broken in the most egregious of fashions.

I'm not going to lose sleep over pointing out that anyone who voted for Trump based on his campaign promises has been duped. All the evidence you need is right there on his own Twitter feed.

Even if Trump turns out to be bad, we still weren't deceived as the alternative would have been Clinton.

Im just hoping he will get rid of Obamacare, close down the borders to everyone who isn't likely to be a net benefit for the country, make it ok to exercise our constitutional freedoms again, get rid of identity politics and finally put reason above feelings again.

[Elegiac]

Even if Trump turns out to be bad, we still weren't deceived as the alternative would have been Clinton.

Im just hoping he will get rid of Obamacare, close down the borders to everyone who isn't likely to be a net benefit for the country, make it ok to exercise our constitutional freedoms again, get rid of identity politics and finally put reason above feelings again.

Remind me why repealing Obamacare and closing the borders are a good thing, again?

The other shit is just untrue.

[Deleted]

Remind me why repealing Obamacare and closing the borders are a good thing, again?

The other shit is just untrue.

I have nothing against taking educated people who share our values but it should be ok to deny entrance to anyone whos values do not match ours or who just doesn't bring any useful skills with them. Not all cultures are equal nor compatible with each other.

As for Obamacare, Im not a socialist, nuff said.

[Elegiac]

I have nothing against taking educated people who share our values but it should be ok to deny entrance to anyone whos values do not match ours or who just doesn't bring any useful skills with them. Not all cultures are equal nor compatible with each other.

What values are those? Being seduced by demagoguery and electing a complete twat with not one iota of political experience to the Presidency?

Also, Trump's policies stand to drive educated people -away- from the country. Good luck with that.

As for Obamacare, Im not a socialist, nuff said.

What on earth makes you think the ACA is 'socialist'?

[Deleted]

What values are those? Being seduced by demagoguery and electing a complete twat with not one iota of political experience to the Presidency?

Also, Trump's policies stand to drive educated people -away- from the country. Good luck with that.

Are you serious? After all those lies the mainstream media told about Trump, how he was "racist" and hateful and grabbed on to every little thing like how he used a naughty work 30 years ago while not even in public. I guess thats also one of the big reasons he won, people are sick and tired of being lied to and called evil and racist and literally Hitler for having the wrong skin color or for not belonging to one of those leftists "favored groups". Oh yea and the Clintons and co attacking green cartoon frogs instead of dealing with serious issues.

What on earth makes you think the ACA is 'socialist'?

Not getting into that again, its all been said here and everywhere else too ad nauseam. I just want it gone and so do most others, deal with it.