Ohio passes 'heartbeat' abortion bill

[Zyster]

Someone who is brain dead is no more a person then a severed limb. They cease to exist in any meaningful way.

To you. Obvious considering the conversation.

[Total Crica]

You do if you get pregnant..

No I don't, I can abort.

[Concequence]

Are you talking to me right now?

You said the INDIVIDUAL ITSELF gets to sign one, however I don't believe a fetus has one of those. Alive or not. You don't get a Individual Self, or conscious self, until about the 28-32nd week of gestation. Way after this proposed 6 weeks legislation.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ousness-arise/

And this is just saying the Wiring is in place, the brain starts to give off an EEG rhythm. This is well after the point where a baby can survive outside the body.

[Zyster]

It won't slow ANY woman down that wishes to abort an unwanted pregnancy - she can still abort at any time.

So you are saying the millions of people that go to planned parenthood would now instead just take a hanger to themselves? I hope you really don't speak on behalf of people.

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Could not reply to my statement with a solid reason of choice. So you give me a word salad.

You literally said let people live their lives. I told you why people interfere. Not hard to get from point a to point b. Well maybe it is.

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No I don't, I can abort.

Not legally if laws can be passed to prevent it.

[Total Crica]

you are saying the millions of people that go to planned parenthood would now instead just take a hanger to themselves?

Women have known how to abort for alot longer then modern medicine has been a thing.

[Zyster]

You said the INDIVIDUAL ITSELF gets to sign one, however I don't believe a fetus has one of those. Alive or not. You don't get a Individual Self, or conscious self, until about the 28-32nd week of gestation. Way after this proposed 6 weeks legislation.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ousness-arise/

And this is just saying the Wiring is in place, the brain starts to give off an EEG rhythm. This is well after the point where a baby can survive outside the body.

And I ended with I don't agree in situations where the individual loses their choice.

[Total Crica]

Not legally.

Women don't need permission to be able to abort.

[Zyster]

Women have known how to abort for alot longer then modern medicine has been a thing.

Not all woman, as you so ever keep trying to imply.

[Total Crica]

Not all woman, as you so ever keep trying to imply.

All women that wish to know can know.

[NineSpine]

It's absurd because you choose to not like it. Doesn't make the facts and less relevant. When you have sex you know the risks. Are you saying when you have sex you don't know the risks? Do you even know what an STD is?

Risks and consent to something after the fact aren't the same thing. If I take the risk of not installing a smoke alarm, I'm not consenting to burn to death.

[Tennis]

I would rather die then remain pregnant, at ANY stage of pregnancy. And if I had to kill myself in order to abort, I would.

Wow this hate for kids is not healthy at all, you do realise this?

[Zyster]

Women don't need permission to be able to abort.

You are right. They also don't need permission in being charged.

[Total Crica]

Wow this hate for kids is not healthy at all, you do realise this?

Death tends to be not healthy, yes, I realize this. Its preferable to remaining pregnant, however.

[NineSpine]

No it's still murder try again

Um, it isn't. Murder is defined legally. If it's legal it isn't murder. If I kill you in self defense, the court will literally rule that I did not commit murder.

[Zyster]

Risks and consent to something after the fact aren't the same thing. If I take the risk of not installing a smoke alarm, I'm not consenting to burn to death.

You are consenting to not being alerted to a fire. Fire alarms don't indicate they will prevent you from being burned to death.

[Concequence]

And I ended with I don't agree in situations where the individual loses their choice.

So since a baby does not have an individual self. there is no one to lose that choice. The choice is wholly the mothers at that point. Understood. Thanks for clarifying.

[Total Crica]

You are right. They also don't need permission in being charged.

Lock us all up then. See how that works out. =P About time you decided on action instead of bitching! You ready for this war, little boy?

[Daedius]

And suddenly miscarriages rose sharply...

[Tennis]

Death tends to be not healthy, yes, I realize this. Its preferable to remaining pregnant, however.

Most normal women would feel a sense of pride and excitement that they have a baby. Human beings are meant to procreate.

[Total Crica]

Most normal women would feel a sense of pride and excitement that they have a baby. Human beings are meant to procreate.

That's nice. I still prefer to not remain pregnant if it happens, thanks anyway.