Will this pc work? - Unsure of parts compatibility

[Eyechewer]

Hello everyone.

I recently posted here about a problem I have with my new pc, since it was not fixed i returned the PC to the store and now looking to buy a new one.

I am not a very technical person, and while I know generally what I want, I am not very versed in the nitty gritty (stuff like: is my psu strong enough to supply power to the system? Is it too strong? is my motherboard compatible with SLI and my memory? Can I connect my harddisk to this mboard? Can my case fit my video cards? can it fit my cooling? etc).

I want to build a killer pc (price doesn't matter a whole lot. decided to treat myself). want to play games in 4k with 60 fps for the near future. That means games like rise of the tomb raider and witcher 3, but also coming titles like mass effect andromeda. I want a beast.

Specifically I require:

1) Intel i7 6700 processor or better
2) 32 gigs of RAM. I don't know a whole lot about frequency or speed.
3) 2x GTX 1080. Has to be 2 cards in SLI. one card won't cut it.

I talked with a few friends and we came up with this build - http://www.tms.co.il/preview/spec/dgcs6bet

Sorry about the hebrew but the specs are clear I think. Is this a good computer? Are all the parts compatible with each other? I want it to work flawlessly. Since its my own "build", if something doesn't work, I can't come to the store to complain. They will rightly say "thats what u asked for". So I have to be 100% what I'm buying will actually work.

Edit: I will connect to it a razer naga, razer deathstalker and razer kraken via usb, as well as xbox1 controller sometimes. Maybe that also effects power usage. My screen is dell http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/apd/210-adof 27 inch 4k screen, connected to video card by hdmi, and draws power from outlet in wall. I don't intend on overclocking anything, as to keep the lifespan of the pc as long as possible. Also considering switching the cooling for h110 or h90 corsair all in one liquid cooling.

[Sturmbringe]

Layla tov. Kol ha kavod?

So.

1. Since you are SLI'ing, I recommend a full tower. I recommend my own Corsair 780T.

http://www.corsair.com/en/graphite-s...-tower-pc-case

Why: Better airflow, lower temps, more OC headroom, Israel gets bloody hot.

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2. I do NOT recommend to buy EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0.

Why: https://www.google.gr/search?q=Evga+...H8v2wQKGrZi4AQ

EVGA claim to that they have rectified the issue, however, their implementation of ACX 3.0 cooler is bad, the card is small so it heats up more, and they just used bandaid fixes to patch, and not really fix, the overheating issues.

I recommend instead: a. Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 Gaming, b. Gigabyte GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming or c. MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 8G or d. Palit GTX 1080 Game Rock Premium Edition.

Why: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...l#xtor=RSS-182
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3. Buy a 6700k. You'll thank me later. Basically, a K series CPU ensures your rig will last longer. Reasonable overclocking does not diminish the life of a PC.

I used to run a Core 2 CPU overclocked to 4 GHz for 5-6 years and around 27,000 hours. Said CPU made it unharmed and I sold it on e-bay.
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4. Your PSU is excellent. I approve.

5. (Less serious) I recommend ASUS ROG motherboards because of their ROG AI Suite software, BIOS and great quality.

I'm a fellow Jew btw.

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Also considering switching the cooling for h110 or h90 corsair all in one liquid cooling.

I do not recommend Liquid Cooling.

Why: AIO liquid coolers can leak and when they do they will ruin your PC. If you read the manual of said liquid coolers, you will find out that there is no guarantee that they won't leak.

32 gigs of RAM. I don't know a whole lot about frequency or speed

You don't really need more than 16 gigs for gaming. Besides, occupying all 4 mobo slots with RAM sticks draws more power, produces more heat, and may reduce CPU overclocking potential.

I recommend G.SKILL RAM as they offer lifetime warranty and their warranty is solid as I have RMA'd RAM with them before. Buy reasonably priced RAM and don't go for extreme pricey RAM. RAM speed is, by and large, completely irrelevant for gaming.

I will connect to it a razer naga, razer deathstalker and razer kraken via usb, as well as xbox1 controller sometimes. Maybe that also effects power usage

Power consumption of these components is negligible.

[Eyechewer]

About the RAM: I know I don't need more than 16 GB right now. But when you spend this much money on a computer, you want to future proof it as well. It doesn't cost that much extra money and it lets me sleep at night. I don't care much about overclocking as I do not intend to overclock anything. At least not right off the bat. I want to buy a PC strong enough to run everything in 4k without OCing anything.

I'm more concerned about the small things. Assume I go with your recommended case. Can my mboard fit the case? can the fans? Does the PSU supply enough / too much power? Are my memories compatible with mboard / video cards etc. I really am quite clueless about these things sadly.

Edit: Current build is http://www.tms.co.il/preview/spec/gayvblfh after your revisions.

[Sturmbringe]

No problem.

1. I recommend to not buy liquid cooling for the CPU at all for reasons I explained above. I recommend instead:

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master...00NXLYE4G?th=1 or

http://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-u14s

2. The CPU cooler will fit in your case easily.

3. Yes the RAM modules can be inserted in the motherboard.

4. Your PSU is excellent and it can easily deal with the load your system will have.

5. I suggest you change your RAM modules to G.SKILL modules and 2666 MHz or 2800 MHz (but the modules you have selected will do fine).

6. Motherboard: I recommend Maximus VIII Hero

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813132565

Here's how your system will look (this is my own system):



I am happy I was able to help you man.

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It is fine. Just relax and we'll fix it.

About the RAM: I know I don't need more than 16 GB right now. But when you spend this much money on a computer, you want to future proof it as well. It doesn't cost that much extra money and it lets me sleep at night. I don't care much about overclocking as I do not intend to overclock anything. At least not right off the bat. I want to buy a PC strong enough to run everything in 4k without OCing anything.

This system will run any game at 4K without overclocking the CPU or GPU. Slightly overclocking the CPU will give you some extra frames in shooter-type games making them smoother.

Can my mboard fit the case?

Ken

can the fans?

Ken

Does the PSU supply enough / too much power?

Ken

Are my memories compatible with mboard

Any DDR4 type RAM modules designed for desktop PC's are compatible with your motherboard. You just should not buy laptop type memory (this is a gross mistake to make so nobody does it).

Also, DDR3 and DDR2 RAM modules will NOT fit in your motherboard.

I really am quite clueless about these things sadly.

It is fine. All you have to do is ask.

[Lathais]

About the RAM: I know I don't need more than 16 GB right now. But when you spend this much money on a computer, you want to future proof it as well. It doesn't cost that much extra money and it lets me sleep at night. I don't care much about overclocking as I do not intend to overclock anything. At least not right off the bat. I want to buy a PC strong enough to run everything in 4k without OCing anything.

I'm more concerned about the small things. Assume I go with your recommended case. Can my mboard fit the case? can the fans? Does the PSU supply enough / too much power? Are my memories compatible with mboard / video cards etc. I really am quite clueless about these things sadly.

Edit: Current build is http://www.tms.co.il/preview/spec/gayvblfh after your revisions.

16GB IS Future Proofed to hell and back already. Honestly, very few people even really need more than 8. 8 is still pretty much the standard, so you see people put 16 to overkill/future-proof. If you are only really gaming though, 8 is more than enough.

[Eyechewer]

Thanks again for all your input, good people.

It seems we have a slight problem about the cooling. I'm fine with not using a liquid AIO cooling system, but the store I want to buy from doesn't have the cpu coolers you suggested.

From Noctua, this is what they have: http://imgur.com/oXzvvdv

I can ofcourse just buy from Amazon or something and open the case and install it myself, but I don't want to do that as it will void my warranty, and I'm not confident enough I can do it without damaging something or doing it incorrectly.

[Sturmbringe]

Regarding the RAM modules I recommend:

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/9519501/G-S...ISB.html#specs

(GSKILL AEGIS G.Skill 16GB DDR4-3000MHz (F4-3000C16D-16GISB)

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/7318116/G-S...5D-16GRBB.html

(GSKILL RIPJAWS G.Skill Ripjaws4 16GB DDR4-3000MHz (F4-3000C15D-16GRBB)

Things you should watch out for:

1. Do not buy DDR3 or DDR 2 modules or laptop modules.

2. Do not buy a kit of 4 modules. Buy a kit of 2 modules.

3. Do not buy "extreme" memory i.e. modules that look too tall because you may have clearance issues with your CPU cooler and the motherboard. Some extreme RAM models are so tall, because of tall heat spreaders, that they do not fit underneath your CPU cooler.
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Regarding your selected CPU cooler (Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 CO) it is fine if you buy this one though I recommend the CM Hyper Evo I pasted above, b/c it has got two fans on it in push-pull config, which means it will have greater cooling capacity.

I have also changed the NOCTUA cooler to one compatible with Socket 1150.

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Thanks again for all your input, good people.

It seems we have a slight problem about the cooling. I'm fine with not using a liquid AIO cooling system, but the store I want to buy from doesn't have the cpu coolers you suggested.

From Noctua, this is what they have: http://imgur.com/oXzvvdv

I can ofcourse just buy from Amazon or something and open the case and install it myself, but I don't want to do that as it will void my warranty, and I'm not confident enough I can do it without damaging something or doing it incorrectly.

Ok. In that case, I recommend you buy the NH-U14S.

http://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail

Please ask the shop guysto attach a second NOCTUA fan on the cooler in "pull" configuration. If the cooler already comes with 2 fans on it then fine.

Oh btw, I've just done a mitzvah :-)

[Eyechewer]

The store I'm buying from don't have any GSKILL products I'm afraid. I only see RAM from Samsung, Crucial, Hynix, Kingston and Corsair. Went with Kingston because I heard good things. They also don't have cpu coolers by coolermaster. Only arctic cooling, zalman, asetek, noctua, antec, corsair and fractal design.

Edit: You changed the cooler to one compatible with socket 1150? But I thought I need socket 1151. At least that numbers seems to pop up a lot.

You are a good mench. This is big mitzva. If I would pay 14k shekel for a pc that doesn't work because the mboard doesnt support sli or the psu is too weak, oy vey.

http://www.tms.co.il/preview/spec/hs53vw4g - starting to come around? Also again about the RAM - You said it's bad if all 4 slots (assuming there are 4 slots) are occupied by RAM. Fine. But only 2 are occupied in my build. From what I understand, this is 2 sticks of 16 each. not 4 sticks of 8.

[Sturmbringe]

The store I'm buying from don't have any GSKILL products I'm afraid. I only see RAM from Samsung, Crucial, Hynix, Kingston and Corsair. Went with Kingston because I heard good things. They also don't have cpu coolers by coolermaster. Only arctic cooling, zalman, asetek, noctua, antec, corsair and fractal design.

Edit: You changed the cooler to one compatible with socket 1150? But I thought I need socket 1151. At least that numbers seems to pop up a lot.

You are a good menscth. This is big mitzva.

Okay, so:

1. Your 6700k is Socket 1151.

2. The "1150" above was a typo.

3. The Noctua NHU14S is compatible with Socket 1151, buy without fear.

http://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-u14s

4. As for RAM, I recommend you buy CORSAIR since they don't have GSKILL.

[Eyechewer]

4. As for RAM, I recommend you buy CORSAIR since they don't have GSKILL.

"Corsair DDR 4 32 (16Gx2) 2133 CL13 Vengance LPX Black" should do nicely? http://www.corsair.com/en/vengeance-...2gx4m2b3000c15

Compatible?

[Sturmbringe]

"Corsair DDR 4 32 (16Gx2) 2133 CL13 Vengance LPX Black" should do nicely? http://www.corsair.com/en/vengeance-...2gx4m2b3000c15

Compatible?

This is too slow (2133 MHz) and unnecessarily large (32 GB). Pls go for 2X8=16GB and something faster (2800-3000 MHz).

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http://www.tms.co.il/preview/spec/hs53vw4g

The above is almost perfect. Would just like to see slightly faster RAM.

[Eyechewer]

This is too slow (2133 MHz) and unnecessarily large (32 GB). Pls go for 2X8=16GB and something faster (2800-3000 MHz).

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I've checked their entire "menu" so to speak - There are no 2800-3000 MHz memories to be found!

You can browse yourself http://www.tms.co.il/pcbuilder/1543

I know you can't read hebrew (also apparently you can't write in hebrew in mmo-champ. Bug?) but try to find the memory tab. its under the psu tab. 9'th tab from the top. You can browse what they have and recommend to me. If you cba to do that I would appreciate it a lot.

Edit: Nevermind, I'm blind. Current build is http://www.tms.co.il/preview/spec/8v9blqd7 I know you want me to take 8x2 but I must insist on 16x2. Money is not an issue. Unless there is a non monetary disadvantage to going 16x2 rather than 8x2, then I'll go with 16x2.

[Sturmbringe]

Of course I can read Hebrew.

The Shema (all of it), some of the Tehilim, some of the Ketuvim, and simple phrases. Ain't that enough? Also, "El Elohei Israel" tatooed on my left arm.

I heard stories, that ppl emigrated to Israel from Russia and only knew how to count from 1 to 9 :-)

Yeah, board regulation, it is not allowed to write in non-English languages.

[Kagthul]

This is too slow (2133 MHz) and unnecessarily large (32 GB). Pls go for 2X8=16GB and something faster (2800-3000 MHz).

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http://www.tms.co.il/preview/spec/hs53vw4g

The above is almost perfect. Would just like to see slightly faster RAM.

RAM speed isnt relevant. The difference between DDR4-2133 and 3200 is... less than 5%

[Sturmbringe]

I've checked their entire "menu" so to speak - There are no 2800-3000 MHz memories to be found!

You can browse yourself http://www.tms.co.il/pcbuilder/1543

I know you can't read hebrew (also apparently you can't write in hebrew in mmo-champ. Bug?) but try to find the memory tab. its under the psu tab. 9'th tab from the top. You can browse what they have and recommend to me. If you cba to do that I would appreciate it a lot.

Edit: Nevermind, I'm blind. Current build is http://www.tms.co.il/preview/spec/8v9blqd7 I know you want me to take 8x2 but I must insist on 16x2. Money is not an issue. Unless there is a non monetary disadvantage to going 16x2 rather than 8x2, then I'll go with 16x2.

OK the RAM modules you have are fine, though overkill. CORSAIR is a good, serious brand with tight quality control and really serious RMA procedures.

Another good thing is that your NOCTUA Cooler os specifically made in such a manner so as to offer extra clearance to RAM modules with tall heatspreaders such as these Vengeance ones.

Congratulations, it is going to be a great PC man. Post photos after you finish building it.

You also need TIM (Thermal Interface Material).

Buy 4g of this: http://www.tms.co.il/product/12983

The way to apply TIM is as follows:

Apply a THIN line in the MIDDLE of the heat spreader. Do NOT reach the edge of the heat spreader. Line should start slightly below top heatspreader and end slightly above lower heatspreader.

Ask if you have any more questions.

[Eyechewer]

I think you misunderstood something Sturmbringe. I am not building the PC. The store is. I'm not buying the components and putting them together myself. I'm not competent enough to do that. I'm having the store do it for me.

Not only am I not building it, it would also be ill advised to do anything with it after receiving it. The computer will come where the case is closed and there's a small red tape on it. You can't open the case without ripping the tape, and that tape is your warranty. Basically if I open the case, I can't come back to the store and ask them to fix my pc if there's a problem. They will simply say "You opened the case, you tampered with your computer, we can't cover this."

It's bullshit but that's how it is.

So your TIM comment is irrelevant. I won't open the case to apply it.

[Sturmbringe]

I think you misunderstood something Sturmbringe. I am not building the PC. The store is. I'm not buying the components and putting them together myself. I'm not competent enough to do that. I'm having the store do it for me.

Not only am I not building it, it would also be ill advised to do anything with it after receiving it. The computer will come where the case is closed and there's a small red tape on it. You can't open the case without ripping the tape, and that tape is your warranty. Basically if I open the case, I can't come back to the store and ask them to fix my pc if there's a problem. They will simply say "You opened the case, you tampered with your computer, we can't cover this."

It's bullshit but that's how it is.

So your TIM comment is irrelevant. I won't open the case to apply it.

Okay, fine then. It will still be a great PC man.

The case I told you to buy has got a screen on the right side, so you will be able to see inside your PC without opening it up.

Like so:

[Eyechewer]

Okay, fine then. It will still be a great PC man.

The case I told you to buy has got a screen on the left side, so you will be able to see inside your PC without opening it up.

Hope so! Looking forward to it. Looks like a great build to me, but still interested in more opinions to make sure 110% there are no issues with compatibility or power.
I'd be heartbroken if I paid so much money only to be stumped by the little things.

Build is http://www.tms.co.il/preview/spec/8v9blqd7

Thanks so much for your help man.

[Sturmbringe]

Hope so! Looking forward to it. Looks like a great build to me, but still interested in more opinions to make sure 110% there are no issues with compatibility or power.
I'd be heartbroken if I paid so much money only to be stumped by the little things.

Build is http://www.tms.co.il/preview/spec/8v9blqd7

Thanks so much for your help man.

Don't worry, I can guarantee there won't be any issues. You should trust me. :-)

Yw. Like I said, mitzvah :-)

[Beckers]

I've checked their entire "menu" so to speak - There are no 2800-3000 MHz memories to be found!

You can browse yourself http://www.tms.co.il/pcbuilder/1543

I know you can't read hebrew (also apparently you can't write in hebrew in mmo-champ. Bug?) but try to find the memory tab. its under the psu tab. 9'th tab from the top. You can browse what they have and recommend to me. If you cba to do that I would appreciate it a lot.

Edit: Nevermind, I'm blind. Current build is http://www.tms.co.il/preview/spec/8v9blqd7 I know you want me to take 8x2 but I must insist on 16x2. Money is not an issue. Unless there is a non monetary disadvantage to going 16x2 rather than 8x2, then I'll go with 16x2.

PLEASE oh god please don't buy there, Private message me and I can help you with a build, you are in kind of the wrong direction. I know KSP's parts by heart and I had built a lot of PCs with them working as a technician. If you need help let me know.