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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    I working in those rooms as well, which is why I consider the fear of a nuclear exchange with China over the SCS as very unlikely. Unlike Russia, China cannot destroy the US but the US can destroy China. So long as the US keeps it tactical Chna will keep it tactical.
    China can easily destroy the US if they limit their targeting to cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    I'm talking about a nice "fuel cell" malfunction on the drone not really "explosives"... so it would make for a great story.

    **we can tell them Samsung built them for us.....
    2 thumbs up, would read again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    China can easily destroy the US if they limit their targeting to cities.
    Isn't getting rid of fake Americans a good thing?

    That might have been too dark...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    I suppose that depends on how effective our missile defense system is.
    Is Star Wars still active?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    I suppose that depends on how effective our missile defense system is.
    Did Star Wars ever worked up to specifications ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    Yeah, Rogue One just came out. Maybe I'll go see that.
    Was hoping for better...

    It is indeed:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stra...nse_Initiative
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annoying View Post
    The drone was deployed from the USNS Bowditch. USNS as in US Naval Ship Bowditch. It's a military vessel.
    Technically, USNS ships are owned by the Navy, run by the MSC, and crewed by civilians. The Bowditch has no crew served weapons and was built to civilian standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Did Star Wars ever worked up to specifications ?
    Only the first 3 iterations. The current one is so flaccid, it's as if it's made by Disney. /rimshot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodwolf View Post
    And I'm sitting here in Austria and feeling pretty helpless if some of your so called superpower nations decide to let things escalate like they almost did in Ukraine.

    Edit: Why the hell are so many guys here obviously for a war between China and the USA?
    Edit 2: Why the hell could anybody even think about war being a good thing?
    Well, as an Austrian you should understand the danger of appeasing a country by allowing it to take over territory......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Technically, USNS ships are owned by the Navy, run by the MSC, and crewed by civilians. The Bowditch has no crew served weapons and was built to civilian standards.
    They should really replace the 'd' with a 'b' in the middle of its name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Why not, it seems like republicans want the Russians to continue hacking US institutions and businesses so they can receive the pulitzer prize.
    I love how you left loonys keep making shit up about Russia despite having ZERO evidence. Keep looking for strings to pull....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Well, as an Austrian you should understand the danger of appeasing a country by allowing it to take over territory......
    The takeover was ordered by an Austrian though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    ruhh rohhhh who would have guessed pissing off China would lead to some bad stuff. Keep rattling that saber Republicans.
    lol...The Dems are still in control "smart guy". Jan 20th 2017 isn't here yet to kick them out.

    Piss off China? What about the illegal chain of islands they are building and arming? What about them constantly hacking our trade secrets amongst other secrets? Fuck China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Why exactly people believed confronting Putin over Syria would lead to nuclear exchange but somehow Russia will stand still while China is pummelled ?
    I, for one, never give credence to the idea that Russia is willing to destroy itself over minor defeats, it is illogical. Nuclear weapons are for when you have nothing left to lose by using them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Honestly speaking you dont think the same is true for the US? Your kids cant even have a future without crippling debt or insane luck, people forgo basic healthcare because of costs, the class divide is so intense you might as well be a different country in some areas, every single echelon of government is so unbelievably corrupt and self serving that next to nothing gets done for the good of the people.

    You arent that different when you get past a few ideologies.
    Then you obviously need to study up on the US and China if you think that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    China can easily destroy the US if they limit their targeting to cities.
    You do not know much about the capabilities of the 2 countries, obviously. China only has roughly 50 ICBMs that can reach the US, and that is well under the number that the US is capable of intercepting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdbond592 View Post
    I am just waiting for Trump to launch threatening twitter tirade and put China in it's place. Anytime now..

    Good news is that our bending over backwards has pleased Russia. One foreign relationship triumph for coming President.
    Obama has been bending over backwards for China, Russia, Iran, and ISIS and NOW you wanna complain? You do realize Trump isn't in office yet, right? Obama is STILL the President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Why exactly people believed confronting Putin over Syria would lead to nuclear exchange but somehow Russia will stand still while China is pummelled ?
    Russia and China have gone to war before.

    China has historical claims to parts of Siberia, the part where everyone looks Chinese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgodeus View Post
    You do not know much about the capabilities of the 2 countries, obviously. China only has roughly 50 ICBMs that can reach the US, and that is well under the number that the US is capable of intercepting.
    You obviously don't know much if you think they're interceptable. If China decides they want to end you, they will end you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Russia and China have gone to war before.

    China has historical claims to parts of Siberia, the part where everyone looks Chinese.
    No they don't, only Mongolia does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    He will eventually piss off Iran as well, which will lead to the total destruction of malevolent nation of Saudi Arabia.
    Piss off Iran? Malevolent nation of Saudi Arabia? You realize that women are treated like 2nd class citizens in your malevolent Saudi Arabia, right?

    Iran isn't going to do a damned thing- Obama was a FOOL in the first place to even try and work out a deal with Iran when they NEVER keep their promises AND the stupid little shit rewarded them upfront before Iran even had to prove that it would remotely be trustworthy which they have already proven time and time again...that they are not. You liberals really need to do some soul searching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    China can easily destroy the US if they limit their targeting to cities.
    They lack sufficient ICBMs to effect the destruction of the US. That is not to say they cannot inflict significant damage, they are just not able to destroy the US.

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