we have had this discussion in the past pointed out numerous undisputed double standards for example I've gotten an infraction for making a Goebbels reference didn't call anyone a Nazi just made the comment about propaganda saying "Goebbels would be proud" but then you have let liberals call Trump and his supporters Nazis and brown shirts
So please just stop with your bull crap that you don't let your bias effect your moderation decisions it is laughable trying it is blatantly obvious that you and most of your moderators do
Yah Yah I know your not supposed to talk about moderators and their actions but believe me I've done the old routine of going through the channels and nothing gets done just gets ignored and the blatant moderation bias continues
So go ahead infract me wont be the first and it wont be the last
The 1st amendment states:I am aware that Trump has gone on record to say that he won't attempt to repeal any part of same-sex marriage (not that he could), but he has spoken, as has his team, about "religious freedom being a state thing",
You are already covered under the Bill of Rights and as such you already have a right of redress.Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
If you are referirng to the 1st amendment, that has zero to do with gay marraige. His reference stems from the 10th amendment , which leaves these things to the states.
Gay marraige is a STATE issue not a federal one.
As it should be, as he has stated time and time again. so again whats the issue here? It isnt and never WAS a Federal issue, it has and and always will be up to the states.The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Absolute twaddle. He has stated AGAIN that this has ALREADY been sorted by the Supreme Court. Who or what will "legislate against religion"?and the goal of all of that is to legislate discrimination against other people on the basis of religion.
What does gay marraige have to do with religion anyway?
Total and absolute garbage. There are laws for this kind of thing in every state, there is every right under the Constitution. Name me ONE even anywhere where a person has been denied medication undert this criteria. Just one.Worst-case scenario is that I could find myself unable to buy a home easily, get medications, food, or even go to a gym nearby if people working there feel that my homosexuality offends their religious beliefs.
Please. Just one.
You cant, because there has never been one, and this has as much credence as the sudden spate of "Trump supporter hate crimes" which have turned out to have the substance and truth of a three dollar bill.
Like that fake news of a woman attacked and her hijab ripped off...oops it was a lie..or the woman who claimed she was attacked and hit with a steel bar..oops that was a lie....or like the man dragged out of a car and beaten half to death because he was a Trump voter..wait that wasnt a lie....
[Citation needed]like North Carolina and Mississippi.
Wanna know something?
As an Aussie and as an outsider who has been watching US politics for over thirty years ai am disgusted and appalled and SICKENED at the way the entire media and celebutards have tried to orchastrate this campaign to have St Hillary anointed..EVERY SINGLE MEDIA outlet was in the tank for Hillary, CNN has proven itself to be rightly called the Clinton News Network, and the fact that someone actually had the unmitigated gall to drag Dan "Killian Memos" Rather into this beggars belief.
Dan Rather? REALLY???
The man who CREATED fake news? The moron who ran with a story with fake documents they KNEW were fake and then ran like hell when his stupidity was exposed?
And now we are seeing electors from the College bombarderd with threats and hate mail telling them to make Hillary President....which is more or less asking for a coup d'etat.
ENOUGH. Trump won Hillary LOST.
EVERY SINGLE ONE said Trump will lose and now he won we are seeing all these doomsday predictions on how he will be a "dictator": anfd "take away my rights" and "he is racist homophoisc islamophobic this that and the other...which he isnt.
"He will deport immigrants" no he will deport ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS and what he will do is...guess what..ENFORCE THE LAW which is already on the books.
Come to Australia illegally and you will be deported. Come here without a passport and be deported.
*sigh*
Mate I have no personal beef with you. I dont want a fight, I dont want to annoy, or upset, or hurt you. I have many gay friends and as a former nurse and emergency officer I am and always have been sworn to protect all life..I dont have gay friends, I dont have black friends, I dont have Asian friends....I just have people who are my friends.
One guy whom I knew and worked with made a comment one day when this topic came up
"Let gays marry..that way they can be as miserable as everyone else"..I know peopole who are for and against it, gay and straight. It isnt an easy issue and it isnt a simple one..I get that, I do.
Can you please understand that as someone who cares for all , that you are making a mountain out of a molehill and you are, forgive me, buying into the media narrative.
Take a step back and realise that maybe you are misjudging him. Dont listeN to the media narrative, look for what he has actually said.
And when asked on gay marraige he stated this is up to the states to decide.
Which it is, and always has been.
(Lemme see what I get infracted for this time)
Edit:
The media are always saying that "America is divided"....yeah well as they seem to be the ones that will be and are and always have been in a campaign to undermine, sneer, snipe, undercut, criticise and otherwise hate the new President...Im not surprised.
They are the ones fanning the flames here.
They are the ones going after his ten year old son.
They are the ones making tweets on how President Trump is sleeping with his daughter
Think on that.
Lastly:
Remember the riots and fires and protests and parades and media screaming when Obama was elected and then re elected?
No?
Neither can i.
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They already did by not doing anything about the Nazis using their platform.
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Dude. I'm left-leaning, and I'm the most censored person on these forums.
Edit: Anyhow, the answer is that rich white people are above any sort of rules or standards set forth. Welcome to America.
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Yes, we know being black goes against everything you stand for.
Here you are.
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*waves hand in front of face*
And that is the fear, you keep quoting the constitution......as it has been interpreted and protected by the liberal/balanced supreme court.
Trump might have 3 picks coming on the Supreme court. if it goes full hard core conservative/religious zealot you can kiss some of those protections good bye since they will interpret the protections differently then the current and past supreme courts.
So states can intact laws that normally would be over turned in the supreme court, and now they can just refuse to do anything about them even if they appear to violate the constitution.
Also you might want to read about the history of this country and what black people were denied rights to.
- everything that was named. "buy a home easily, get medications, food, or even go to a gym" and way more, like voting rights and equal rights.
You might also want to read about Japanese American Interment camps and what they were denied rights to. you know where they had their property taken away from them, put in camps where they had limited medical care, were not allowed to go to a gym lol.......and way worse.
Funny how the constitution did not protect them.
can you see why people say the things they say, because history has shown the constitution, while it says a lot of great stuff, sometimes the Govt just ignores it and people turn a blind eye cause its not them... (i.e white people)
This thread has been so insightful.
It's pronounced "Dur-av-ian."
Who opposed the Civil Rights Act? Democrats.Also you might want to read about the history of this country and what black people were denied rights to
Hey Zan: Theres a shop up the road that uses that star in blue to highlight their new price deals. I can remember a hundred or more ads anywhere that use stars like this as decoration on their advertisements "20% off" etc....doesnt make them anti semitic.
Oh and.....
Wasnt FDR a Democrat?On February 19, 1942, President Franklin D. Roosevelt authorized the use of relocation camps and removed Japanese residents away from the West coast by the executive order of #9066.
Yes..he was.
Who set the dogs on civil rights protestors in Alabama?
George Wallace..a Democrat,
Who stood with MLK at his famous speech "I have a dream"?
Charlton Heston...a Republican.
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The short and sweet of it is that it would be a PR nightmare to bane the PEOTUS from your platform.
The fact you had to go back over half a century to find these people should tell you something.
Some reading.
But I don't expect non-Americans to know about this stuff.
If you think that the democratic party today in any way shape or form resembles the one in the 50s and 60s, you're completly ignorant of history.
The republican party became the party of southern democrats who decided that the party wasn't for them during the civil rights movement. What does it say about a party that gladly takes in racists?'
Edit: It's also why i chuckle every time the republicans call themselves the "party of Lincoln" as if they would willingly go along with what he did in the civil war... Ha!
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