Obama just granted 231 pardons and commutations – the most ever in a single day

[Orlong]

So before this idiot Obama leaves office he takes a big shit on law abiding citizens by mass releasing felons?

It will be such a relief watching President Donald J. Trump escorting the Obama's out of the White House.

I hope he starts his inauguration speech off with "President Barack Hussein Obama...You're fired!!!", now get the hell out of the peoples house!

[Jun]

Our jails could be empty and turned into libraries or homeless shelters if people would just stop breaking laws. The problem isnt putting too many people in jail. The problem is too many people committing crimes. No amount of prisons or prisoners is too many if they are full of law breakers

Sweeping problems under the rug never solves them. The problem is putting too many people in jail in addition to failing to reform convicts. The idea isn't to maintain a population of people in prison, but to rehabilitate them back into society in a meaningful manner. For someone who cares so little about people, good or bad, I'm not sure you'd understand the sentiment.

[Orlong]

How many adults do you know who have never broken laws?

Personally, I don't know any.

I dont know any who have broken laws. And Im talking about criminal laws (Felonies and Misdemeanors) , not summary offenses like speeding.

[Machismo]

I will why should he get vacation, when I cant afford to take vacation, because he decided I needed to pay all the worthless peoples insurance bills and now I have a shit insurance plan that I have to pay $1200.00 a month for.

Then get a job that offers vacation days.

[Tijuana]

I dont know any who have broken laws. And Im talking about criminal laws (Felonies and Misdemeanors) , not summary offenses like speeding.

Do you think there is ANY chicken and egg situation in poor neighborhoods, in regards to crime, poverty, and disenfranchisement?

[Belize]

That test literally doesn't exist. Marijuana metabolizes and sticks in fat cells. Sometimes for months.

It totally exists, it's next to the test that lets the identify gays in public!

[easywayout]

If it was totally legal (IE not on the Federal drug classification schedule, and no Federal or State laws prohibiting the use or sale of such), then the suppliers and dispensaries would likely all fold because potheads would just grow it themselves at little to no cost

Yep, just like all smokers grow their own tobacco; all vegans have their own gardens; all keto followers butcher their own meat; and all alcoholics run their own stills.

[Machismo]

Its not even remotely the same. Guns do not alter your consciousness which mars your judgement and makes you do crazy and unwise things. Drugs do. The drugs are the cause of the bad behavior and lawbreaking. Guns dont cause people to use them incorrectly and shoot people

I've seen a lot of people act like idiots when they get their hands on a gun. It is the same thing, you don't like something, so you want to ban it. Drugs are a tool, just like alcohol. It seems illogical to blame one, but not the other. Stop trying to force your morals onto everyone else. You seem to have a strong aversion to freedom, that's pretty sad.

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If its not a just law, then work to get it repealed or changed. Dont ignore it and shit on it and then bitch when you get arrested

That still doesn't justify the existence of a law.

Ironically, people like you are the ones whining when antiquated and oppressive laws get overturned. You whined when gay marriage was legalized, so you don't actually mean what you say. I can bitch about oppression all I want, because I have freedom of speech. I can call you out for hypocrisy whenever it suits me, and I enjoy doing it.

[Dextroden]

If it was totally legal (IE not on the Federal drug classification schedule, and no Federal or State laws prohibiting the use or sale of such), then the suppliers and dispensaries would likely all fold because potheads would just grow it themselves at little to no cost

Well, then it comes down to backyard farm and cooking vs fast food style argument. A fair amount of people would do it themselves to save money and guarantee a quality they like. But plenty would keep dispensaries alive because some people don't want to put in the work, don't mind paying a premium price or like the ability to complain if they don't like what they got.

Can't get mad at the seller if you grown your own failure batch.

[Mad_Murdock]

That test literally doesn't exist. Marijuana metabolizes and sticks in fat cells. Sometimes for months.

Are you saying that testing THC levels in the blood doesn't exist? And that the test they are performing are completely made up?

[Machismo]

Our jails could be empty and turned into libraries or homeless shelters if people would just stop breaking laws. The problem isnt putting too many people in jail. The problem is too many people committing crimes. No amount of prisons or prisoners is too many if they are full of law breakers

They would also be more empty if people like you stopped trying to push unnecessary laws. You can whine all you like about people not breaking the law... but here's a better concept. Stop trying to push horseshit laws.

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If it was totally legal (IE not on the Federal drug classification schedule, and no Federal or State laws prohibiting the use or sale of such), then the suppliers and dispensaries would likely all fold because potheads would just grow it themselves at little to no cost

And then the free market and capitalism would take over. Freedom is awesome.

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I dont know any who have broken laws. And Im talking about criminal laws (Felonies and Misdemeanors) , not summary offenses like speeding.

Laws are laws, right? Now you want to try and rationalize one criminal act, because it doesn't fit your narrative. Stop trying to move goalposts, and stop breaking the fucking law.

[Sky High]

Are you saying that testing THC levels in the blood doesn't exist? And that the test they are performing are completely made up?

they're not realiable beyond saying "there's THC here". THC can stay in your body for an extended period of time even if you inbibe a small amount of weed.

[Valkors]

Remember Obamas Fair Prison sentence act, and then Wendell whatever was released under it, and he went on to murder his ex gf and her 2 children? YEAAA! Lets let more of these criminals back on the street!!!! (I know this is pardoning and the Act is something else, but its still the same general thing)

[Belize]

Are you saying that testing THC levels in the blood doesn't exist? And that the test they are performing are completely made up?

It depends, if you use marijuana once every now and then, traces are gone between 12-24 hours. Even the these tests are unreliable at best.

Only regular use leaves easily detectable traces.

[Martinezzz]

And, apparently, who have served a good deal of time behind bars, and have demonstrated their ability to be rehabilitated.

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Asking the important questions.

Cool story bro tell it again.

[Adam Jensen]

Pretty sure after he got heard about the truck slaming into xmas shoppers he went to play golf. I guess it could be worse, i could be another liberal just giving Obama a pass like you have all these years.

I've criticized him for plenty over the years. Spinelessness in the ACA, drone strikes, extending the PATRIOT act and Bush cuts, etc.

I just don't criticize him over stupid pointless bullshit.

[Dug]

It depends, if you use marijuana once every now and then, traces are gone between 12-24 hours. Even the these tests are unreliable at best.

Only regular use leaves easily detectable traces.

Detection yes but there's no way to track when you took it. So unless you have a confession from the person that caused an accident that they did in fact smoke before driving, a drug test won't tell you that they smoked "within hours".

[Annoying]

Are you saying that testing THC levels in the blood doesn't exist? And that the test they are performing are completely made up?

I'm saying that THC levels in the blood aren't indicative of recent use. You can test positive for a month, sometimes more.

Urine testing: "Marijuana use can be detected up to 2–5 days after exposure for infrequent users; for heavy users: 1–15 days; for chronic users and/or users with high body fat: 1–30 days"
Hair testing: "a detection period of approximately 90 days"
Saliva testing (what WA uses and the closest you get): "up to 72 hours after intake"
Blood testing: "12–24 hours, with heavy/frequent use detectable in the blood for up to 7 days."
Breath tests (still in testing): A claim of 2-3 hours, but still needs published scientific backup.

None of them can determine if you're intoxicated while driving. The closest you get right now is saliva testing, and that leaves a huge margin of error. Would it be fair to charge someone with a DUI if they drank 2-3 days before driving? No.

Sure, when the technology gets there (hey, here's hoping that breath test is proven to be accurate in that small of a time range!), it's something that needs to solidly happen. But doing it now means incorrectly gauging how recently it was used, and can't be taken as a real statistic for who is actually stoned behind the wheel.

[Orlong]

Do you think there is ANY chicken and egg situation in poor neighborhoods, in regards to crime, poverty, and disenfranchisement?

No. I see too many people who grow up to become very successful and rich from the inner city poor. And they did it all through hard work, paying attention in school, and doing the right thing (Ben Carson, Chris Gardner, Michael Oher, Steve Harvey, Ella Fitzgerald, John Woo, Eartha Kitt. Even Colonel Sanders and Dr Phil were destitute and homeless as kids, etc..) People dont have to fall into the gang, drug, and crime culture. They choose to

[Mad_Murdock]

they're not realiable beyond saying "there's THC here". THC can stay in your body for an extended period of time even if you inbibe a small amount of weed.

I dunno, I'm reading here the challenge with the blood test is that they have to get the blood fairly quickly to get a accurate reading. Which in a fatal accident is probably easy. Where in other cases, they need to get a warrant and such and in that time the THC levels can drop making someone who is over the limit, below the limit by the time the test is administered. Heavy users have the worse of it, has that high level is stored.

Most everything I found so far, says the blood test is the most accurate. I'm sure the Pro Pot people will still argue they are excellent drivers regardless of how stoned they are, just like most drunk drives argue the same.