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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    Sweden has no power of any kind, unless you mean Ikea will stop doing business with Israel.
    But they are doing this through the UN that....wait a minute...they have no power either. Hrm......

  2. #122
    Good job, Sweden. Keep it up.

  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    Sweden has no power of any kind, unless you mean Ikea will stop doing business with Israel.
    Well outside of the military industrial complex opinion means something. If the Jews didn't care why are they doing their best to destroy Sweden?

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    Genocide? Are....are you serious?? WOW! This forum...
    Not all genocides are carried out the way the Holocaust was. What would you call turning the place people live into a massive open-air prison, where you ban them from getting proper supplies to even maintain a civil society? That's the destruction of a people.
    "stop puting you idiotic liberal words into my mouth"
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    Not all genocides are carried out the way the Holocaust was. What would you call turning the place people live into a massive open-air prison, where you ban them from getting proper supplies to even maintain a civil society? That's the destruction of a people.
    The GDR survived it for 40 years, North Korea is still alive and kicking as well.

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slybak View Post
    Dead Palestinians aren't radical and Palestinans who have been driven out of their land by Israeli "settlers" can't rebel. The Israeli right doesn't want to rule these people; they want them dead or somewhere else.
    So you advocating ethnic cleansing?

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Blodkorven View Post
    Our leftist goverment will most likely be replaced by 2018 and we will go back to being all mushy with Isreal.
    Actually, the right is not doing all that well either.
    It's a good bet that whoever wins the next election will be as weak as the current goverment and nothing will really change.

  8. #128
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    Israel knows they have a blank check and a lot more leeway now with Trump coming in, and Obama doesn't really have time to stop anything. Plus Netanyahu and Obama's dislike of each other their bad relationship is well-known, they have both blown each other off in scheduled meetings a number of times. Obama has also been more openly critical of Israel's actions than any recent President. So Netanyahu isn't going to hold back for Obama's sake.

    All of this, combined with Trump wanting to move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, and having a cabinet with far-right members that are outspoken on their views on Muslims shows where things will be going. I'm not expecting any Kerry-type ME peace talks. I'm not as convinced that Trump will necessarily be pro-Israel, as much as he'll be isolationist hands-off and leaning towards anti-Muslim. But that will give Israel free reign to have a heavy-hand against the Palestinians and increasing settlements, both of which will lead to retaliation I'm sure. So it's going to be a bumpy ride over there I'm guessing.

  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    Sweden has no power of any kind, unless you mean Ikea will stop doing business with Israel.
    Ooo yes, Normaly in the past the goverment of Israel becomes furious then sombady question their actions, if Sweden was of no influence the goverment of Israel would not have to respond so vigorous as they done in the past. Sweden do not have great influence, but known to be a sensible and progressive state, hence other countries listen. This UN resolution of condemning Israeli settlements, will be veto, but it will puch Israel one more stepp toward the "apartheid South africa" treatment.

    There are other countries that is worse is not a defence, its a excuse.

  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by a77 View Post
    Ooo yes, Normaly in the past the goverment of Israel becomes furious then sombady question their actions, if Sweden was of no influence the goverment of Israel would not have to respond so vigorous as they done in the past. Sweden do not have great influence, but known to be a sensible and progressive state, hence other countries listen. This UN resolution of condemning Israeli settlements, will be veto, but it will puch Israel one more stepp toward the "apartheid South africa" treatment.

    There are other countries that is worse is not a defence, its a excuse.
    There will be some whining, like there always is, but in the end they'll just get tired of criticizing and move on. If Israel wants something done, they'll do it, no matter what others think.
    If Americans can do whatever they want, then so can Israel, Russia and China, and everyone else.

  11. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Friendly Kitty Cat View Post
    I stand with Sweden against Israel who I understand to be committing crimes against humanity and genocide against the innocent Palestinian people.
    Innocent Palestinian people. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    You've either been living under a rock, have been purposely ignoring reality, or are just straight up trolling in order to be able to say something like that.

    It's stupid shit like what you're saying that doesn't help the situation in the slightest. You'd think with it being almost 2017 and the internet at your fingertips, you'd at least have an inkling of an idea about how wrong and idiotic your statement is.

  12. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    If Americans can do whatever they want, then so can Israel, Russia and China, and everyone else.
    So what you say is we shall hit Israel with sanctions like the sanctions that hit Russia?

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by a77 View Post
    Ooo yes, Normaly in the past the goverment of Israel becomes furious then sombady question their actions, if Sweden was of no influence the goverment of Israel would not have to respond so vigorous as they done in the past. Sweden do not have great influence, but known to be a sensible and progressive state, hence other countries listen. This UN resolution of condemning Israeli settlements, will be veto, but it will puch Israel one more stepp toward the "apartheid South africa" treatment.

    There are other countries that is worse is not a defence, its a excuse.
    Why wouldn't Israel respond to Sweden and more specifically to their FM? You see, not everybody is like Sweden, which sits idle and begs for more when shit is thrown onto their faces, avoiding a response out of fear of aggravating the shit thrower.

    Sweden and it's FM got a sugarcoated "Fuck off" and a well deserved one.

  14. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by a77 View Post
    So what you say is we shall hit Israel with sanctions like the sanctions that hit Russia?
    We should hit the US with sanctions before anyone else. It would take like 100 years of constantly killing Palestinians to even match the amount of genocide commited by the US on the native population.

  15. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavett View Post
    Sweden and it's FM got a sugarcoated "Fuck off" and a well deserved one.
    You make my point, the truth cut deep, hence a full counterattack of insults insted of a elaboration why it is right to build new settlements on occupied land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    We should hit the US with sanctions before anyone else. It would take like 100 years of constantly killing Palestinians to even match the amount of genocide commited by the US on the native population.
    You did not notice that US recognized there wrongdoing against the orginal native and the native have full citizenship and rights and local autonomy, in modern US. So your argument is that Israel are doing noting wrong becuse they have not exceeded US quouta of killing. So if we turn the coin by your own logic can the palestin freely kill as many Israels as long they do not exceeds the US quouta?

  16. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by a77 View Post
    So if we turn the coin by your own logic can the palestin freely kill as many Israels as long they do not exceeds the US quouta?
    They already do, because they're terrorists.

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    We should hit the US with sanctions before anyone else. It would take like 100 years of constantly killing Palestinians to even match the amount of genocide commited by the US on the native population.
    Kek...
    The world's economy would collapse if trade ceased with the US. Besides, who is this mysterious "we"? Do you have a mouse in your pocket or something?

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by a77 View Post
    So you think ethnic cleansing is acceptable? What make it morally wrong to trun the coin and say jews can can go elsewhere, the rest of the world is a big place?
    Pretty easy to slap that ethnic cleansing label on this but the fact is these people have been given every opportunity to peacefully coexist and they refuse to do so.
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  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    We should hit the US with sanctions before anyone else. It would take like 100 years of constantly killing Palestinians to even match the amount of genocide commited by the US on the native population.

    In the last 100 years of conflict, ~20000 palestinians were killed including all the wars.
    So in order to match same numbers (~50-100 mil?) at this rate you need ~500,000 years. "Almost" there.
    Quote Originally Posted by MeHMeH View Post
    The people you are calling "terrorists" are in fact "freedom-fighters", no amount of stabbings is going to change this.

  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by TrumpIsPresident View Post
    Pretty easy to slap that ethnic cleansing label on this but the fact is these people have been given every opportunity to peacefully coexist and they refuse to do so.
    Just because you think the ethnic cleansing is justified doesn't make it not ethnic cleansing.

    The idea of people being given every opportunity to peacefully co-existent.... in someone elses religious ethno-state apartheid system, in the territory that was stolen from them... is insane.
    "stop puting you idiotic liberal words into my mouth"
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