Reasons Hillary lost, according to Huffingandpuffington Post

[Tijuana]

I found this to be fucking hilarious, particularly the last two things cites as "not the reason" she lost. If you live in this echo chamber, I guess I get why you know you know so much that isn't so.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0496fbcb0c26d

Here is my response to the Slate article, “So We’re Still Blaming Jill Stein and James Comey, Huh?”

This is a partial list of the things I blame, ranked.

1-199. MISOGYNY

This is why they chant “lock her up” and “Trump that b*tch.” It’s why people can’t quite put a finger on it, but they just don’t like the cut of her jib. It’s why they see her as shrill and scolding and corrupt ― not sufficiently warm, not the kind of person they want to grab a beer with. It’s why, following a tried-and-true pop culture paradigm — from Lady Macbeth to Claire Underwood — they see her as hungry for power and willing to do anything — even murder — to get what she wants. It’s why 2016’s answer to most election-related questions is, “It’s the misogyny, stupid!”

200. BERNIE SANDERS

I know this is going to piss a lot of people off, but so be it. I think Sanders, who fortified the recurring narrative that Hillary was a corrupt neoliberal and part of a rigged system, did more damage than anyone else. He turned millions of young people against Hillary — and countless independents, no doubt, too.

Yes, he ultimately campaigned for Hillary, but did so half-heartedly, through pursed lips and slumped body language, bashing Trump but rarely praising Hillary. One could almost see the thought bubble over his head: “This should’ve been me.”

201. FAKE NEWS

This, like almost everything on this list, is a subset of the misogyny. But these were among the stories that were circulating on the web — and that people believed — about Hillary Clinton during the campaign.

She’s got Parkinson’s or MS and is covering it up.
She has a body double, whom she trots out when she is too ill to appear in public
She murdered a DNC staffer, among many others
She exchanged “signals” with Lester Holt from the debate stage.
She runs a child pedophilia ring out of pizza parlor in D.C. (And as we saw this weekend, this kind of fake news can have real consequences.)
I could go on…

202. JAMES COMEY

When FBI director James Comey announced that his office would not be filing charges against Hillary Clinton, he did it in the most scolding, damning language possible. His statement, where he called her “extremely careless,” was unprecedented. Nonetheless, the Clinton campaign took this embarrassing public reproach and thanked him, happy the whole thing was behind them. Oh, if only they had been so lucky. Not content to have damaged her reputation with his public statement, Comey waited until 11 days before the election to announce that he was reopening the case, investigating new emails related to Anthony Weiner. (The Weiner bit was a particularly damning touch, reminding people of Bill’s infidelities.)

As the Trump campaign celebrated and gloated — and Americans were essentially told: This is who Clinton is, a woman who will be forever dogged by scandal — a hasty release was issued a day before the election, clearing Clinton (again!) of all wrongdoing (the emails on Weiner’s server were duplicates). This was the biggest November Surprise in the history of November Surprises and it never should’ve happened.

203. RUSSIA/WIKILEAKS

I love how we’re all pretending that Russia didn’t have a clear horse in the race — Trump — and didn’t do, what seems to be, everything in their power — hacking the DNC, hacking John Podesta, disseminating fake news — to get him elected. While we weren’t looking, Russia just won an information war against us.

204. THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA

Eventually, they got better at calling out Trump for his lies, incompetence and corruption, but they continued to act as though Hillary’s emails were an equally big deal (they spent like three times as much time discussing her emails as they did on all of her policy proposals combined), and continued to let Trump’s surrogates run roughshod over cable news, assassinating Hillary’s character (remember the handcuffs?) and lying about her, smugly, sanctimoniously, and with impunity. Quite simply, the media failed us.

205. JILL STEIN

That publicity-seeking, bourgeois woman gave disenchanted Bernie or Busters a place for their protest vote, and continued the absurd narrative that Hillary was just as bad as Trump.

Yes, this matters, despite snide Slate articles suggesting otherwise:

205a. You’re on my list too, Susan Sarandon.

206. THE CLOSE TO 100 MILLION WHO DIDN’T VOTE

What the hell is wrong with you people?

207. VOTER SUPPRESSION

Some people who wanted to vote couldn’t. Without the protections of the Voting Rights Act, Republicans were able to suppress the vote in several key states.

208. HILLARY’S MESSAGE

Bernie made promises: Free college! Trump made promises: Build that wall! Save American jobs! But Hillary, a policy wonk who understands the nature of incremental change, could never bring herself to spout slogans. I don’t think she should’ve made false promises, necessarily, but perhaps a few concrete soundbites would’ve gone a long way.

209. HILLARY’S CAMPAIGN

They should’ve had her hold rallies in Wisconsin. They took their eye off the ball.

210. HILLARY’S SUPPORTERS

We took to the corners of the Internet for a variety of reasons — mostly because of (duh) the misogyny. But we should’ve been louder and prouder and worn our allegiance in public, shutting down the narrative that we were unenthusiastic. I was a pretty public supporter. But that being said, I can’t tell you how many times I expressed my devotion to Hillary — and my anger at the unfair, widespread anti-Hillary tactics — in a locked FB group when I should’ve been screaming it from the rafters.

Things I don’t blame:

1. HILLARY HERSELF.

She won every debate. She came up with well thought out, concrete plans to govern. She carried herself with dignity and grace, despite all the endless, misogynist shit that was hurled at her. She was nothing short of heroic.

2. IDENTITY POLITICS

Because seriously, fu*k that.

This is a great example of election deniers.

[Spectral]

It’s why 2016’s answer to most election-related questions is, “It’s the misogyny, stupid!”

2. IDENTITY POLITICS

Because seriously, fu*k that.

If doubling down doesn't work, they can always triple down, I guess.

[Garnier Fructis]

You're acting like some of these factors weren't part of it. The article is clearly missing some important reasons, and some of the listed reasons are wrong, but not all of them.

[Deleted]

No she lost because people were annoyed by her voters.

[Tijuana]

You're acting like some of these factors weren't part of it. The article is clearly missing some important reasons, and some of the listed reasons are wrong, but not all of them.

The fact that the only things that are NOT to blame, are Hillary and identity politics are what interests me the most. That's clearly the actual reason, so it's a strange thing to deny.

[Spectral]

No she lost because people were annoyed by her voters.

Obviously you didn't read the article! She said right there:

210. HILLARY’S SUPPORTERS

We took to the corners of the Internet for a variety of reasons — mostly because of (duh) the misogyny. But we should’ve been louder and prouder and worn our allegiance in public, shutting down the narrative that we were unenthusiastic. I was a pretty public supporter. But that being said, I can’t tell you how many times I expressed my devotion to Hillary — and my anger at the unfair, widespread anti-Hillary tactics — in a locked FB group when I should’ve been screaming it from the rafters.

Clearly the only problem with Hillary's supporters is that they weren't belligerent enough.

[jellmoo]

Some of the list is accurate, most aren't. Hillary lost simply because the Democrats didn't take into account the frustration of white middle class America.

That, and a lot of people don't like her.

[Tijuana]

Obviously you didn't read the article! She said right there:

Clearly the only problem with Hillary's supporters is that they weren't belligerent enough.

top kek

10/10 chars

[Aggrophobic]

I thought the reason was that a lot of americans are uneducated and clueless.

[Mistame]

"Oh, the misogyny!" It's like the right screaming the Obama won because of chem trails.

I thought the reason was that a lot of americans are uneducated and clueless.

Pretty silly to assume that just because some people chose one vile and corrupt piece of shit over the other that they're "uneducated and clueless". But we get it, you just like calling Americans names. It's all good. We don't like you, either.

[Ryme]

If you include the entire list and then reorder sensibly, I think it's pretty comprehensive.

[Tijuana]

If you include the entire list and then reorder sensibly, I think it's pretty comprehensive.

Do you agree that the reasons were not that Hillary was a bad candidate, and identity politics is getting tired (as well as being fundamentally mathematically flawed)?

[Ryme]

Do you agree that the reasons were not that Hillary was a bad candidate, and identity politics is getting tired (as well as being fundamentally mathematically flawed)?

No, I think Hillary was a bad candidate and that identity politics was a factor of her losing. Poor wording on my part, entire list was meant to be the list proposed and the list of "non-factors".

[Sesshou]

If you include the entire list and then reorder sensibly, I think it's pretty comprehensive.

What would you consider a sensible order for a list with 210 entries among which 199 are misogyny?

Even aside from that, no, it isn't. The author explicitly says two things that are not reasons she lost are Hillary and identity politics. Those are two of the biggest reasons.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

James Comey did have an effect I'd say buut really Hillary has a lot of negative baggage so I see why she lost. I'd of preferred her but what's done is done. The people doubling down aren't even willing to look at what they did.

[Tijuana]

What would you consider a sensible order for a list with 210 entries among which 199 are misogyny?

Even aside from that, no, it isn't. The author explicitly says two things that are not reasons she lost are Hillary and identity politics. Those are two of the biggest reasons.

They really don't get it. They have accepted as truth the fact that all white people are racist. You will never change their minds but, when you vote them out, you don't have to be insulted by them anymore.

[Tijuana]

James Comey did have an effect I'd say buut really Hillary has a lot of negative baggage so I see why she lost. I'd of preferred her but what's done is done. The people doubling down aren't even willing to look at what they did.

But, what CAUSED Comey to be a factor in the election? Hillary's own actions. I don't feel sorry for her losing an election because she intentionally broke the (admittedly minor) law.

[Mehrunes]

Don't really see an issue with the reasons to be blamed, though I doubt some of them had really substantial effect and as Garnier said, it's not an exclusive list. The "things I don't blame at all" part is lulz worthy though.

[Edge-]

But, what CAUSED Comey to be a factor in the election? Hillary's own actions. I don't feel sorry for her losing an election because she intentionally broke the (admittedly minor) law.

She didn't break any laws, she broke rules. Rules are not laws.

[Tijuana]

She didn't break any laws, she broke rules. Rules are not laws.

According to Comey, she broke the law. But the law she broke, is so minor, that prior precedent was simple termination of employment. I have no idea why you guys can't wrap your mind around the basic truth of the email scandal.

When the rule is voted on by Congress, voted on by the Senate, and signed by a president, it's a law. Period.

Your continued denial of the facts, might have been a contributing factor to your level of shock at the election results.