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    Does Odyn know about Sylvanas?

    So, near the end of Stormheim we find out that Sylvanas got some secret deal with Helya and at the end it turns out she wanted to enslave Eyir, Odyn's highest valkyr.

    Then we venture into HoV and Eyir herself mentions this and how we lack honor and valor. Didnt she report to Odyn what has happened in Stormheim?
    For the Alliance the whole situation would actually be a good thing (saving his valkyr and preventing an 'ally' of Helya from doing evil thing), but what about the Horde?

    On a side note, looks like another plot hole now that Helya is dead. We probably wont ever find out what Sylvanas' part of bargain was (since Helya is gone, Sylvanas doesnt have to fulfill her part, and she probably wouldnt anyway since the lantern has been broken).

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    Quote Originally Posted by keymil View Post
    So, near the end of Stormheim we find out that Sylvanas got some secret deal with Helya and at the end it turns out she wanted to enslave Eyir, Odyn's highest valkyr.

    Then we venture into HoV and Eyir herself mentions this and how we lack honor and valor. Didnt she report to Odyn what has happened in Stormheim?
    For the Alliance the whole situation would actually be a good thing (saving his valkyr and preventing an 'ally' of Helya from doing evil thing), but what about the Horde?

    On a side note, looks like another plot hole now that Helya is dead. We probably wont ever find out what Sylvanas' part of bargain was (since Helya is gone, Sylvanas doesnt have to fulfill her part, and she probably wouldnt anyway since the lantern has been broken).
    Its hard to guess how that whacko Odyn would think of anything. Whether he knows or not is irrelevant. Guy is nutzo.

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    Odyn is too busy sending people into a meatgrinder...with valor!

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    Considering he turned helya into a slave he has it coming.

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    The better question is if odyn cares
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    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    The better question is if odyn cares
    That depends....what is the valor potential of him caring ? How valorous could it be ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    That depends....what is the valor potential of him caring ? How valorous could it be ?
    About five valor.

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    No doubt Odyn got a briefing from Eyir as to the shenanigans involving Sylvanas - but whether or not that really registered to Odyn on anything but a surface level remains to be seen.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    odyn is too big of a douche to even care about her.


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    Quote Originally Posted by keymil View Post
    So, near the end of Stormheim we find out that Sylvanas got some secret deal with Helya and at the end it turns out she wanted to enslave Eyir, Odyn's highest valkyr.

    Then we venture into HoV and Eyir herself mentions this and how we lack honor and valor. Didnt she report to Odyn what has happened in Stormheim?
    For the Alliance the whole situation would actually be a good thing (saving his valkyr and preventing an 'ally' of Helya from doing evil thing), but what about the Horde?

    On a side note, looks like another plot hole now that Helya is dead. We probably wont ever find out what Sylvanas' part of bargain was (since Helya is gone, Sylvanas doesnt have to fulfill her part, and she probably wouldnt anyway since the lantern has been broken).
    I was only recently more aware of the fact she says this in HoV...

    BUT WHAT DOES SHE SAY WHEN AN ALLIANCE FACES THE WEST BOSS IN HOV??? Does anyone have an alliance and horde character and knows there's different script? Why did you make this presumption OP, are you a developer in disguise fishing for guidance?

    I only thought "How weird would it be if Eyir mentions the alliance lack honor and valor when greymane only didn't win that fight, especially when greymane was technically helping Eyir?"

    What DOES she say in that HoV encounter as an ally? What changes in ToV when you're ally? Plz respond.

    How was this a good thing for the alliance? 90% of the people will be missing the picture here, and 90% of those remaining won't even have looked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selastan View Post
    About five valor.
    he could OD on that much valor

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    She says the exact same thing to Alliance characters.
    Khadgar: "Well Zergy, are you armed?"

    *Does a facepalm using [Blackhand's Severed Arm]*

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    Well, the guy sends some strangers to HoV and orders them to kill some of his ancient valarjar to prove something... this guy is worse than wrathion when it comes to 'good intentions, bad execution'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selastan View Post
    About five valor.
    That's barely worth standing up from your chair !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    No doubt Odyn got a briefing from Eyir as to the shenanigans involving Sylvanas - but whether or not that really registered to Odyn on anything but a surface level remains to be seen.
    You know where your logic falls flat ? You assumed Odyn would actually listen what woman has to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoughtful Trolli View Post
    BUT WHAT DOES SHE SAY WHEN AN ALLIANCE FACES THE WEST BOSS IN HOV??? Does anyone have an alliance and horde character and knows there's different script? Why did you make this presumption OP, are you a developer in disguise fishing for guidance?
    Script is the same for both factions and doesn't even change with a warrior in the group like the boss in DHT. makes it stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoughtful Trolli View Post
    I was only recently more aware of the fact she says this in HoV...

    BUT WHAT DOES SHE SAY WHEN AN ALLIANCE FACES THE WEST BOSS IN HOV??? Does anyone have an alliance and horde character and knows there's different script? Why did you make this presumption OP, are you a developer in disguise fishing for guidance?

    I only thought "How weird would it be if Eyir mentions the alliance lack honor and valor when greymane only didn't win that fight, especially when greymane was technically helping Eyir?"

    What DOES she say in that HoV encounter as an ally? What changes in ToV when you're ally? Plz respond.

    How was this a good thing for the alliance? 90% of the people will be missing the picture here, and 90% of those remaining won't even have looked.
    She says the exact same thing to allies. Blizz dropped the ball on that for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anuibus View Post
    Script is the same for both factions and doesn't even change with a warrior in the group like the boss in DHT. makes it stupid.
    in his eternal valor he is so arrogant he doesnt recognize you da bitch that serves him ULU ULU

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    Once you complete Stormheim's main questline outside the entrance to HoV, when Havi reveals who he is, he "apologizes for the deception" if you are a Warrior. He claims all must go through the same trials, regardless of his own favor, etc. I'm not disagreeing that the lack of interaction between him and Warriors in HoV/ToV is unfortunate but I didn't see this mentioned here.

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    Considering he knows what we are after the moment he meets us etc. it is extremely likely. But as others already said, it is not really clear if he would actually care about it. But the way it looks it doesn't concern him at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keymil View Post
    Well, the guy sends some strangers to HoV and orders them to kill some of his ancient valarjar to prove something... this guy is worse than wrathion when it comes to 'good intentions, bad execution'...
    You don't kill any valajar permanently there, the val'kyr will resurrect them again or Odyn(see the quest about the king Ymiron), so this is more like a sparring time which iron dudes ends up being unconscious

    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Considering he knows what we are after the moment he meets us etc. it is extremely likely. But as others already said, it is not really clear if he would actually care about it. But the way it looks it doesn't concern him at all.
    So far I think he really doesn't care about the whole situation, unless sylvanas would have enslaved Eyir in that occasion in that case surely he will be piss out, but like never happened he doesn't need to do anything about her and since the legion is invading he would only focus in that matter, maybe in the 7.2 we are gonna see what he think about the horde and alliance and if he plans to blackmail them to gain new soldiers in his valajar army

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