All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side
Frankly I loved reforging. It gave me a small way to micromanage my character (which I love).
Then again I loved the old school talent trees as well. Whether or not I had more control over my characters talents is debatable. I at least felt like I had more control.
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Last edited by Deztru; 2016-12-26 at 02:05 PM.
whichever way you look at it, the game is getting dumbed down to retard level
Everyone kept saying MoP was shit, but it started at 10M subs. It's big loss was by months 4-6 into MoP, the total loss across those 6 months was only 1.7M compared to WoD losing 2.9M in HALF THE FUCKING TIME. 3 months passed and WoD loses 2.9M players. This is not due to "MMOs dying", but because Warlords of Draenor is a garbage expansion. Cata also lost 2.9M subs across the entire expansion. MoP lost 3.2M across the entire expansion. WoD lost 4.6 Million 7 months after it launched!
I think this will only solve extreme ilvl upgrades. I don't see it fixing 5-10 ilvl upgrades. Your 2 BiS stats are going to still have more weight than 2 worst stats. For example as a healer on live vs ptr my 860 chest still seems to provide more throughput than my 875 chest. Difference being is that my 875 chest has completely useless secondary stats that do nothing for me and my 860 chest has my 2 BiS stats. Perhaps if its an item that's 10-15 ilvl higher and has at least one good secondary stat for you it will still be an upgrade but going from 2 BiS secondary stats to 2 of your worst secondary stats this change does not help.
Well i guess we can examinate your idea... o wait there is none.
Actually he is right, why we shuold have 4000 stats if they are 1) imbalanced / 2) all have same weight, so they are in some way "useless".
If getting rid of them is the way of balance, his idea is not so far from the best. Or we cuold have onlyall "utility stat" like leech or armor or speed. Some class wuold gain more benefit, but it wuold be only a defensive benefit.
Reforging is a shitty band aid and nothing more. The actual solution is making specs that don't value a specific stat actually value the stat, or making specs that value one stat too much (e.g.: fire mages) value their stat less.
Last edited by Ham on Rye; 2016-12-26 at 04:26 PM.
I know i am smart thank you.
But don't derail topic. Again what's your idea to balance classes or bring an alternative to reforging? At least he proposed something, you can only say the old meme "WoW is dumbed down". Because having some stats value higher then primary stats makes game so hard! Please stop spreading this bullshit around, choosing stat it's not and never was hard in WoW, you always had guide, forums, and ALSO ADDONS for that.
So try harder.
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This is a constructive post, it's not hard eh?
There is nothing left to dumb down about stats. Everything is base on luck. You either equip the item you received or you don't and keep trying endlessly. At this point, you could remove them completely and that would'nt affect game complexity whatsoever.
I only see 3 permanent fix to this :
- Lets players assign all items stats with a ''mystic'' npc : Can add a lot of complexity and multiple gameplay/build. Will need another round of class balance however... This is the most fun and interresting solution IMO but blizzard will most likely never take that path.Too much discrepancy between players and too much complexity.
- Bring back reforge on steroid
- Remove them entirely
All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side
40%, and it was enough to transform an useless item into a useful one.
Consider those two items, a 845 I'm wearing and the items that the Illidan quest chain (Lights Heart) give as reward (at 870)
Shoulder ilvl 845. 929 Str, 1393 Stam, 666 Haste, 295 Crit
Shoulder ilvl 870. 1172 Str, 1758 Stam, 528 Haste, 528 Mastery
I currently value Haste > Crit > Versatiliy.
Mastery is absolutely and utterly useless for BDKs right now, and Im already having too much of it. As it stands, I will keep the 845 shoulder. I can not afford to trade 138 Haste and 295 crit (433 in useful stats) for 365 Stamina. Since crit also provides Parry, swapping the item would also mean losing 0.2% parry! And that is despite the fact that the 243 more strength provide 0.18% more parry!
But with reforging, I could get 211 crit. Which would mean a trade of 138 Haste and 84 crit (222 in useful stats) for 365 Stamina and 307 of a very mediocre stat. Thats a trade I might be willing to do, and the added Strength (and therefore parry) might make the upgrade worthwhile.
As it stands, I do not take an 25 ilvl upgrade because it has shitty stats. 40% reforging is enough to make it an worthwhile upgrade.
Im only wearing 872 (avg. ilvl) but I have 880 (avg ilvl) in my bags. That is just sad.