Obama: I'm confident I could have won a third term as president

[MasterOfNone]

Sorry, I don't actually care about your opinion on it, just that you have no idea what a communist is(not Bernie).


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How did you jump from that to a dictatorship?

Didn't say it was a dictatorship. Just drawing a parallel between the two.

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Sorry, I don't actually care about your opinion on it, just that you have no idea what a communist is(not Bernie).


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How did you jump from that to a dictatorship?

I am sure u know all about communism and you will tell me it was never tried.

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Basically this.

Doesn't seem to hold up but wishful thinking, Trump would still gather the same votes.

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Sure and Obama would get more people to vote than Hillary did so he would win.

Oh and you think Bernie is a communist, guess you are quite out there, off on ignore you go.

Go and ignore me u triggered little communist. Bernie Sanders is a goddamn commie trying to pass as a socialist.

[Jimmy Woods]

In 2012 if it was Trump vs Obama, Obama would've won.

If Obama announced in 2016 he was going to change the constitution to allow unlimited terms maybe he would've won.

But, if it was unlimited terms going into 2012, Obama would've been the one who "did Benghazi" and "emails" and who knows what other fake scandals the right-wing media would create. I'm 100% certain every single person who posted OUTRAGE over Hillary Clinton's actions/inactions dealing with Benghazi those people would've had similar or more OUTRAGE at Obama if he was the one who was going to be the Dem candidate in 2016 because lets face it, Benghazi is a phony scandal that stupid people think is a real scandal.

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In 2012 if it was Trump vs Obama, Obama would've won.

If Obama announced in 2016 he was going to change the constitution to allow unlimited terms maybe he would've won.

But, if it was unlimited terms going into 2012, Obama would've been the one who "did Benghazi" and "emails" and who knows what other fake scandals the right-wing media would create. I'm 100% certain every single person who posted OUTRAGE over Hillary Clinton's actions/inactions dealing with Benghazi those people would've had similar or more OUTRAGE at Obama if he was the one who was going to be the Dem candidate in 2016 because lets face it, Benghazi is a phony scandal that stupid people think is a real scandal.

You really believe Obama would get a third term? thats really disconnected with reality. No wonder Trump won so easily.

[masterhorus8]

You really believe Obama would get a third term? thats really disconnected with reality. No wonder Trump won so easily.

Says the person that thinks that Bernie is a commie.

[Megitsune]

I'm pretty sure he would have won too. There are a ton of people who voted and would vote for Obama that just straight up didn't vote this time because they hated both Hillary and Trump.

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Says the person that thinks that Bernie is a commie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl-BV8vrLDU hes been trying to hide for many years, but in his heart hes a true communist, he looks crazy aswell so it fits

[Jetstream]

Why should there be limits?

1) To mitigate the possibility of the Roosevelt situation coming up again

2) To continue bringing in new minds to the positions and prevent political squatters and/or defacto kings.

[Elegiac]

1) To mitigate the possibility of the Roosevelt situation coming up again

Failing to see how this is a bad thing.

2) To continue bringing in new minds to the positions and prevent political squatters and/or defacto kings.

We already have a magical device by which to accomplish this. It's called an 'election'.

[Wells]

Failing to see how this is a bad thing.

Its just kinda bizarre. "This man was popular and died in office so we have to have the College to stop that" is a weird defense of a system that just put an unpopular 70 year old fat man in office.

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Failing to see how this is a bad thing.



We already have a magical device by which to accomplish this. It's called an 'election'.

Yeh under dicatorships theres also elections, funny enough the guy whos in power for 20 years wins it always

[Wells]

Yeh under dicatorships theres also elections, funny enough the guy whos in power for 20 years wins it always

Oh get off it. The College and term limits have nothing to do with ensuring fair elections.

[Elegiac]

Yeh under dicatorships theres also elections, funny enough the guy whos in power for 20 years wins it always

This is relevant, how? The US is not a dictatorship.

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This is relevant, how? The US is not a dictatorship.

It would become one.

[Elegiac]

It would become one.

Considering that even a President who serves, say, ten terms of office would in no way have absolute power....no, you're wrong.

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Considering that even a President who serves, say, ten terms of office would in no way have absolute power....no, you're wrong.

You're naive.

[Elegiac]

You're naive.

No, just informed as to what constitutional mechanisms typically lead to dictatorships in a given political system.

[Fugus]

I disagree. I think she would have probably have beat any of the other Republican candidates from the primary. They would not have attacked her like Trump did.

If it weren't for her actions during the primary screwing the voters, I would have probably agreed with you. She would have beat Trump as well most likely if things were legit.

But you have to look at what all happened during the primary that worked to screw her chances. You had Clinton, the DNC, and the media all cheat on Clinton's behalf against Sanders and actually insult and antagonize his supporters for not wanting Clinton in the primaries. Then when they were caught, they denied and doubled down and increased screwing the voters over and rewarding those who helped her. Once it got to the point Debbie had to step down in disgrace for her actions only to have Clinton snatch her up for her campaign and reward her for cheating and the DNC replace her with another cheating for her. That was pretty well the last nails in the coffins for many voters who would rather stay home or vote for another person rather than vote for the person who cheated them and shit on them afterward thinking they had no choice.

After all that, Clinton basically destroyed her chances.

And on the side of Trump, you also have to look how he got there which again traces right back to Clinton, the DNC, and the media. The leaks show where Clinton was working with the media to push Trump to the front of the primaries and give him all the attention they could and to take him seriously. If it wasn't for that, he wouldn't have received near the air time he had. If it wasn't for Clinton interfering here there is really good odds that Trump may have lost or at the very least had a much lower following overall. If it wasn't for Clinton, the media may have ended up giving him the Bernie Sanders treatment and just ignored him like the candidate who was promising ponies a few years ago and he would have been seen as completely unelectable.

Trumps attacks were only worth anything because of the power her meddling in the republican primaries for his benefit gave him combined with all the stuff she did during the primaries that gave him ammunition against her but even then, the attacks were minor at best compared to the damage she had already done to herself.