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    It sucks but I don't think it was right for the owner to (allegedly) do that. I wouldn't harm a dog, no matter how violent, as it's an animal and really doesn't know any better. I'd take it to the authorities and see if they can do anything about a negligent owner.

    Exceptions though if a dog is coming after you then yes you are allowed to put it down as your life (human life) is worth more than any animal.

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    Pitbull is the most difficult dog to own and manage and most people are not ready or equipped for the time and responsibility that one is. They are normally owned for a few reasons to appear tough and dangerous or they are rescued or you want to fight dogs or hunt boars. Most of the time only hunters take proper care of them and that is because they use them for their actual purpose, to hunt and kill other animals. I've had countless friends own them and only 1 was gentle and friendly. The rest were insanely territorial, aggressive, and suffered from intense separation anxiety. They only liked their owners and no one else and were generally standoffish. It takes a ton of time to break them of these habits. Even the people I know that raised them would say the same thing that it takes a special kind of person to really own one and that most people aren't those people.

    I've never understood the allure to them as dogs. Want a "tough" dog that will take care of intruders or make people think you are tough? Get a German Shepard or a Rottweiler, much better breeds and less inclined to random violence.

    Legal take away from this story, if you are going to kill the dog that is attempting to kill your dog, do it while your dog is still in it's jaws, then it is defending your property end of story. Don't go try and be nice first, just jump to the end. Revenge killing will always get you in trouble. There is your, the more you know moment.

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    I might have done the same thing if a viscous un restrained dog attacked my pet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    How would you go about killing the dog, pitbulls are pretty strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderdoll View Post
    Thats not what I said at all and you know it. Youre just being obtuse.

    I said, when something small provokes something bigger of course the reaction is greater.

    Did I say ripped apart anywhere?

    Is the Pit Bull and owner in the wrong? Absolutely, however, in the larger context of what we were speaking about, small dog owners rarely socialise their dogs correctly and adequately curb aggressive behavior and you, like those idiot owners said it was fine, because the outcome is lesser.
    I am being obtuse...? Can you not read? I said its not ok for small dog owners to not raise their dogs correctly... I referred to them as "idiots". That doesn't change the fact that the incidence rate of idiots with dogs is the same whether they have a small dog or a big dog, the only difference is idiots with big dogs get people and other animals killed/maimed/etc. Your anecdote of "I see way more poorly trained small dogs" is worth about as much as everything else you say, nothing.

    And you haven't said the words directly, but you are making your garbage tier argument that its ok for big dogs to respond to little dogs in a thread about a big dog tearing a little dog apart........... 1+1=2 mate.

    This on top of the fact that you whipped your shit argument out of thin air because that isn't even what happened in this story. This guy let his poodle play around in his own yard when an unleashed, unsupervised pit bull came down his street and decided to kill his dog.

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    I'd do the same thing. All these people who keep trying to blame the owners for a dog being aggressive by nature are fucking idiots, and the owners should be charged because their dog despite it now being dead, killed another dog.

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    dog was going to be put down anyway, give him a slap on the wrist or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    How would you go about killing the dog, pitbulls are pretty strong.
    they're strong but most people are surprised or jumped by a pitbull, a human being with a premeditated plan of killing a pitbull will have no issue with any half decent weapon surprising the dog and swiftly hurting/killing it.

    i mean you can say how do you plan on taking on an elephant, yeh who's a protected animal and who's dominating the planet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    I'd do the same thing. All these people who keep trying to blame the owners for a dog being aggressive by nature are fucking idiots, and the owners should be charged because their dog despite it now being dead, killed another dog.
    So youre saying the upbringing of a puppy, much like a child, has no bearing on its behaviour?

    Of course the owners have blame in it being aggressive and people who believe otherwise are fucking idiots.

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    I understand being attached to an individual animal/pet (I'm quite fond of each of my cats, and various other previous pets I've had), but is there necessarily any reason to be attached to a breed, aside from some sort of utility (such as herding types) besides aesthetics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anastacy View Post
    I understand being attached to an individual animal/pet (I'm quite fond of each of my cats, and various other previous pets I've had), but is there necessarily any reason to be attached to a breed, aside from some sort of utility (such as herding types) besides aesthetics?
    Im attached to Rottweilers because they are incredibly affectionate cuddly dogs who are loyal and extremely confident and respond really well to training.

    Different breeds have different personality characteristics. Just like people. So its not just aesthetics, although Im sure people do fall in love with the look of a breed.

    I used to have British Staffies and similar to the American breed, people fall in love with their loyalty and affection towards their owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevarin View Post
    if something attacked and killed either of my cats, be it a cat, a dog, or even a human, you can bet i will slaughter them without a second thought.

    my cats arent pets, theyre family. and if you hurt my family, you will pay.
    You're cats are pets that border on vermin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavett View Post
    Absolutely hate Pit owners that allow them to roam without a leash or a muzzle and when shit hit the fan "it was a gentle dog, don't know what provoked it" full of shit excuse.

    Not blaming the Poodle owner one bit.
    Pit bulls are like any other dog when they are neutered, most of these attacks are done by those who aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderdoll View Post
    So youre saying the upbringing of a puppy, much like a child, has no bearing on its behaviour?

    Of course the owners have blame in it being aggressive and people who believe otherwise are fucking idiots.
    A lot of dogs are aggressive by nature, not just by their up bringing. That is why pit bulls are getting banned after all. Pit bulls are one of the worst offenders for attacking other dogs, even big dogs like German Sheppard's are not as historically violent. You can't keep a dog from being aggressive if it is by nature, it will always have some of it's instincts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderdoll View Post
    Im attached to Rottweilers because they are incredibly affectionate cuddly dogs who are loyal and extremely confident and respond really well to training.

    Different breeds have different personality characteristics. Just like people. So its not just aesthetics, although Im sure people do fall in love with the look of a breed.

    I used to have British Staffies and similar to the American breed, people fall in love with their loyalty and affection towards their owners.
    So, that a dog breed can be inherently "cuddly" and "affectionate"...means that a different dog breed can be inherently aggressive/violent, right?

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    Heres to hoping the jury or judge of this mans case understands.

    Luckily I open carry and would've shot the pit bull dead the second it attacked my dog. I have a feeling the reason for the animal cruelty charges is due to the fact that AFTER the dogs had been separated the man continued to slash its throat ( which in and of itself is a horrible way to go ).

    If he had done it DURING the attack, then he could definitely argue self defense.

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    If your pet is demonstrably violent to the point of brutally killing other people's pets, there is no question over whether or not that animal should be put down. Therefore there is no need for authorities to become involved in making that decision. Vigilante justice simply becomes justice once you remove the risk of being wrong. And, these are animals so the cost of being wrong is relatively low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebel View Post
    Heres to hoping the jury or judge of this mans case understands.

    Luckily I open carry and would've shot the pit bull dead the second it attacked my dog. I have a feeling the reason for the animal cruelty charges is due to the fact that AFTER the dogs had been separated the man continued to slash its throat ( which in and of itself is a horrible way to go ).

    If he had done it DURING the attack, then he could definitely argue self defense.
    I don't even like dogs, but if I had a dog and another creature started tearing its flesh I would beat that fucker into a pulp.

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    It's so lovely seeing my hometown in the news like this. Stay class Riverside.
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    If a dog attacks another dog it should be put down. I don't blame the breed for it my family owns an American staffordshire terrier and it's a lovely breed. I think most young people buys these kinds of dogs and don't train them properly. Pit bulls etc are fighting dogs if you lead them into that path. Blame retarded owners who can't handle it.

    If my dog would kill another ones i would put it down myself. You can't have an aggressive unpredictable dog, think if your relatives with small children or whatever. Kids are stupid and can hurt animals without knowing. In this situation if someone would slit the throat of my dog after such an event. I would beat the absolute living shit out of that person. Seriously the idiot would have his teeth kicked in.

    Animals should be put down as humanly as possible. If a dog attacks you, ignore that rule duh.

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    I don't blame him. I'd have killed the dog is a much more slower way and then I would have gone to the owners house and beat the living fucking shit out of them. Hell I would have skinned the dogs face off and broke it's lower back just so I could see that owners face and then proceed to beat her an inch from death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    But you care enough about your animal to extract revenge?

    OT: Both are in the wrong here, a simple legal charge just ended up turning into a blood feud. The poodle owner even had witnesses to make it easy to press charges.
    If you had read the sentence after that, you'd know why I said I'd shoot it. Reading is hard, yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peskre View Post
    I would beat the absolute living shit out of that person. Seriously the idiot would have his teeth kicked in.

    Animals should be put down as humanly as possible. If a dog attacks you, ignore that rule duh.
    It did attack him.

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    I don't blame him. If that'd been my cat instead, I would have done the same thing and gladly accepted the punishment.

    If the law won't give proper punishment for the loss of a family member's life then someone else needs to. I hold no pity for the owner or the pit bull itself. I love my animals like my children and if anyone did anything to them and the law landed on their side then law be damned, let them experience the same pain their negligence caused.

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