"U.S. Punishes Russia for Election Hacking, Ejecting Operatives"

[Deleted]

I'm sure the point you're trying to make will be insightful, so don't leave us hanging and just spit it out.

I'm asking you. Why do you think that the US spies on everyone, even on their "allies". Why would you tap Merkel's phone?
She has no place in politics because she's can be blackmailed. You really have to ask what's wrong when someone who's self-proclaimed dictator of the whole EU can be easily blackmailed?

See, it's funny, because it's actually the Republican's that have been slower to move away from blindly calling anything remotely socialistic "communism", and inherently associating only bad things with both. Democrats have generally been quicker on that one and spent less time using it as a rallying cry.

But either way, no, I don't call them commies. The second I actually learned what Communism was (some point in highschool I guess? It was a long time ago) I stopped calling it that because it was clear that it wasn't.

Ok, you don't. Your administration did, some of them still do. It doesn't matter if it's true to its definition. People call fascist something that it's even remotely fascist. People call democracy something that is more authoritatian than democratic. Terms are defined based on how widely are they used.

It's not inherently authoritarian, either. Most of Europe is pretty heavily socialistic and it's doing alright. And if you actually want to do socialism proper, you need to have a democracy. Like, by definition, given that it's the community (citizens) that all own everything and decide how it should be distributed/regulated

Current Europe isn't even comparable. What's called "socialism" in Europe is in reality social democracy. And then there's communist wing, you know, communist states.

[Ulmita]

If you seriously think our current foreign policy regarding, say, Central America, is the same now as it was in the 70s or 80s you're over your head.

I just look at middle east that you keep changing governments to pro western ones. Do you need more than that? Also, lets not forget that you are currently bombing 7 countries as we speak in order to keep everyone pro western.

lol ok what's the Ulmita approved measure for economic performance?

It would be a combination of indexes.

[Deleted]

This isn't that much of a punishment really. More like a nipple twister.

[Wells]

I just look at middle east that you keep changing governments to pro western ones. Do you need more than that? Also, lets not forget that you are currently bombing 7 countries as we speak in order to keep everyone pro western.

Not sure how this is supposed to be a defense of Russia.

It would be a combination of indexes.

Nonanswer, try again.

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Seriously, trying to claim that the Russian economy is doing anything other than suffering right now is.....forced.

[sonololo]

Seriously, trying to claim that the Russian economy is doing anything other than suffering right now is.....forced.

He doesn't live in the Russia, so his opinion about the Russian economy can be safely discarded. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well, yours too.

But I can attest to that it became slightly better on this December because of influx of foreign money in the budget.

[jugzilla]

I kinda understand why its fun to come on here and trash other countries. Especially the US. I mean we are pretty friggin awesome. But the amount of mindless Russia bashing, mindless...yet very real. I am SICK OF IT, and feel compelled to defend Russia.

[Wells]

I kinda understand why its fun to come on here and trash other countries. Especially the US. I mean we are pretty friggin awesome. But the amount of mindless Russia bashing, mindless...yet very real. I am SICK OF IT, and feel compelled to defend Russia.

That's certainly an alternative to arguing any incorrect statements.

[Ulmita]

Not sure how this is supposed to be a defense of Russia.

I am not trying to defend Russia. I am just saying that you come here just like almost every American, saying how bad is Russia for being paranoid of a military alliance who sole role when made was to conflict with Russia and has LITERALLY SURROUNDED THEM, and for them defending AN ALLY, while your country is bombing non stop for decades now, random countries that don't mean anything to them or have threaten them in any way.
My question is this: Why are you guys out protesting for the wars to end? When you manage that then you have the right to bitch about Russia.

Dedicated to ignorance:

Nonanswer, try again.

I would be GDP in combination of quality of life, current growth, projected growth, currency to say the least.

[Mosotti]

Russia is already a much weaker country. Plus our sanctions will typically be mirrored by other friendly nations.

Really? Doesn't seem like it considering the results in the middle east

[Ulmita]

Seriously, trying to claim that the Russian economy is doing anything other than suffering right now is.....forced.

Russian economy is RECOVERING atm. I am not claiming anything else.

[sonololo]

I would be GDP in combination of quality of life, current growth, projected growth, currency to say the least.

And the quality of life is apalling even compared to the Greece, mind you.

[Deleted]

It's not Pro-Russia but rather anti Obama/Hillary/falsification.
Not everyone like to feel like a sheep, who is being feed certain information without shred of proof.

I am sure they don't want to feel like a sheep, all the while face-booking on their fancy overpriced iToy

[Wells]

I am not trying to defend Russia. I am just saying that you come here just like almost every American, saying how bad is Russia for being paranoid of a military alliance who sole role when made was to conflict with Russia and has LITERALLY SURROUNDED THEM, and for them defending AN ALLY, while your country is bombing non stop for decades now, random countries that don't mean anything to them or have threaten them in any way.
My question is this: Why are you guys out protesting for the wars to end? When you manage that then you have the right to bitch about Russia.

You act like NATO was making moves on Russia or something. Everyone was perfectly happy to do business with the Russian Federation until they started invading countries to drum up nationalist fervor and prop up Putin's numbers at home. There's a clear bad guy here.

I would be GDP in combination of quality of life, current growth, projected growth, currency to say the least.

Russia does not perform particularly well in any of these categories. Quality of Life rankings are weak, GDP growth forecasts seem to max out at 1.8% etc etc.

[Shalcker]

It denies everything, even positive news for them; so spare me a bullshit about "denies that", "denies this". We already know that MID are too chicken to admit anything.

And CNN sources are too chicken to put their name behind information they give.

Which is current environment means #fakenewsalert

You'll need to drop the mindset that the Obama's administration rules everything, it's dangerous for you; but I know why are you thinking that – because you have the example of the Putin, who 'single-handedly' rules everything, so it's easy for you to confuse and think it's the same in the US.

There are quite many theories on this board on who actually rules US.

But if president actually couldn't influence policy in any major way noone would be so hurt over Trump win.

[Wells]

Russian economy is RECOVERING atm. I am not claiming anything else.

Not while sanctions remain in place, oil prices remain low, and rampant corruption remains a constant leak in the nation's hull.

[Ulmita]

And the quality of life is apalling even compared to the Greece, mind you.

I wouldn't know. I've lived just a few years in Greece and most of my life in Canada. But again, you can't just say quality of life is bad, thus economy is bad.
Besides, quality of life in Greece is pretty darn awesome. Bars open till morning, beautiful beaches, healthcare in top 15 world wide (much higher than USA or Canada), beautiful marble / granite metro etc. I am quite impressed with what i am seeing here tbh.

[sonololo]

And CNN sources are too chicken to put their name behind information they give.

What does the CNN have anything with here?

Also; I'm not sure why someone invented and gave the Disinformation a new word - "fakenews". But still, the Russians are quite adept with disinformation.

[jugzilla]

That's certainly an alternative to arguing any incorrect statements.

Oh you. When was the last time you said anything interesting? Nothing personal.

[Deleted]

This is pathetic. Like the US doesn't try to do this shit to other countries? And what do they gain from this? In a few weeks Trump is in office and they will have accomplished nothing with this move. Really childish.

[Shalcker]

Not while sanctions remain in place, oil prices remain low, and rampant corruption remains a constant leak in the nation's hull.

Everyone bets on sanctions not remaining for much longer, oil prices already rebounded, and "rampant corruption" was fairly constant the entire time so it was already "priced in".