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    Chicago 2016 in review.

    Graphics and stats taken from: http://heyjackass.com/category/2016-stats/ fully sourced and documented accounting of violent crime in Chicago.

    Chicago 2016 Year to Date

    Shot & Killed: 709
    Shot & Wounded: 3649
    Total Shot: 4358
    Total Homicides: 789

    Chicago 2016 Shot Clock



    Chicago 2016 Shot Placement

    Placement - Killed/Wounded
    head - 261/131
    chest - 173/192
    back - 69/364
    abdomen - 46/233
    neck - 26/78
    face - 19/90
    side - 19/69
    shoulder - 6/166
    other - 14/2158



    Chicago 2016 Police Involved Shootings

    Killed by Police: 11
    Wounded by Police: 14
    Police shot by Criminal: 9



    Chicago 2016 Homicide Trend



    Chicago 2016 Cause of Death (unnatural)

    Cause - Homicide/Percentage
    Gunshot - 707/90.1%
    Stabbing - 42/5.4%
    Arson - 10/1.3%
    Trauma - 8/1.0%
    Child Abuse/Neglect - 7/0.9%
    Assault - 6/0.8%
    Auto - 3/0.4%



    Chicago 2016 Deadliest 'hoods

    Neighborhood - Homicides/Wounded/Total
    Austin - 89/443/532
    Englewood - 85/349/434
    Garfield Park - 57/324/381
    North Lawndale - 34/241/275
    Humboldt Park - 28/162/190
    Roseland - 31/147/178
    New City - 42/132/174
    Auburn Gresham - 30/138/168
    Grand Crossing - 32/124/156
    South Shore - 24/102/126
    Chicago Lawn - 20/96/116
    Little Village - 17/87/104
    West Pullman - 10/91/101
    South Chicago - 18/73/91
    Chatham - 18/66/84
    All Others - 249/1025/1274



    Chicago 2016 Race of Victim/Assailant

    Race - Victim/Assailant
    Black - 611/100
    Hispanic - 130/30
    White/Other - 40/5
    Police - x/11
    Self Defense - x/9
    Unknown - 6/632



    Chicago 2016 Murder Matrix



    Chicago 2016 Homicide Clearance Rate

    Legal Outcome - Homicides
    No Suspect Charged - 576
    Suspect Charged - 130
    Police-Involved - 11
    Self-Defense - 9
    Murder/Suicide - 6



    Chicago 2016 Age of Victim

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    Most hospitals in the world go into a panic when a gunshot victim is brought into the emergency room, not in Chicago. The US military sends its surgeons to Chicago for training.
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    Seems like video games have improved the headshot accuracy of kids in Chicago, but I wonder what the K ratio is like.
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    Is the OP in favour of gun control to help combat this problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Most hospitals in the world go into a panic when a gunshot victim is brought into the emergency room, not in Chicago. The US military sends its surgeons to Chicago for training.
    Maybe we should just let ISIS take over Chicago, then it would be less violent.
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    Stats from a single year are useless on their own.

    There's legitimately something wrong since the number of murders have jumped sharply to a level that hasn't been seen for almost 2 decades in Chicago, which had seen a downward trend in killings and violent crime. It's a pretty large spike that is much larger than any of the random deviations before.

    If you were looking for any sort of objectivity here, that would be a better starting point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Release View Post
    Is the OP in favour of gun control to help combat this problem?
    Well maybe we should outlaw committing murder first, because I'm sure that people who are out to gun down rival gang members really care about gun laws.
    Most people would rather die than think, and most people do. -Bertrand Russell
    Before the camps, I regarded the existence of nationality as something that shouldn’t be noticed - nationality did not really exist, only humanity. But in the camps one learns: if you belong to a successful nation you are protected and you survive. If you are part of universal humanity - too bad for you -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    Can we get this bait thread locked and the OP infracted?

    There really is nothing constructive here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Can we get this bait thread locked and the OP infracted?

    There really is nothing constructive here.
    What, are you implying that people don't care about whats happening in Chicago?
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    Before the camps, I regarded the existence of nationality as something that shouldn’t be noticed - nationality did not really exist, only humanity. But in the camps one learns: if you belong to a successful nation you are protected and you survive. If you are part of universal humanity - too bad for you -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    Well maybe we should outlaw committing murder first, because I'm sure that people who are out to gun down rival gang members really care about gun laws.
    Because making something illegal definitely has no impact on the ease of procuring said illegal item.

    Wait, nevermind, that's retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    Well maybe we should outlaw committing murder first, because I'm sure that people who are out to gun down rival gang members really care about gun laws.
    Makes it harder to kill someone without a gun though wouldn't you say? And easier to police if guns are harder to acquire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Release View Post
    Is the OP in favour of gun control to help combat this problem?
    The OP (me) is in favor of criminal control.

    Gang task forces, stop and frisk, 3 strike laws, etc.

    But isn't it just amazing that these stats are from an AMERICAN city?

    By the way it reads you'd think it was a 3rd world war zone right?
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    One of the stick figures is holding a gun upside down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumpIsPresident View Post
    The OP (me) is in favor of criminal control.

    Gang task forces, stop and frisk, 3 strike laws, etc.

    But isn't it just amazing that these stats are from an AMERICAN city?

    By the way it reads you'd think it was a 3rd world war zone right?
    Drug trade and gang warfare with a steady and unrestricted flow of firearms from adjacent states says hai.
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    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzl View Post
    Because making something illegal definitely has no impact on the ease of procuring said illegal item.

    Wait, nevermind, that's retarded.
    Quote Originally Posted by Release View Post
    Makes it harder to kill someone without a gun though wouldn't you say? And easier to police if guns are harder to acquire?
    The future, with being able to produce limitless firearms with widely available 3d printers, suggests your ideas about eliminating the availability of guns are doomed to failure. The only solution will be to end the motivation for people committing gun crime.
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    Before the camps, I regarded the existence of nationality as something that shouldn’t be noticed - nationality did not really exist, only humanity. But in the camps one learns: if you belong to a successful nation you are protected and you survive. If you are part of universal humanity - too bad for you -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumpIsPresident View Post
    The OP (me) is in favor of criminal control.

    Gang task forces, stop and frisk, 3 strike laws, etc.

    But isn't it just amazing that these stats are from an AMERICAN city?

    By the way it reads you'd think it was a 3rd world war zone right?
    Something needs to be done about gangs I agree with you on that. However, why do gangs exist in the US and how to reduce them? That's a big question. I would argue it's mainly do to systemic inequality. Terrible education and prospects for the average Latino or Black in Chicago means a gang is probably one of few choices.

    Also this from the Chicago Police Superintendent

    “If you think that putting more cops on the street would make a difference, then take a look at the fact that we put a third more manpower on the street for this weekend,” McCarthy said.

    “What’s the result? We’re getting more guns. Well, that’s great,” he said. “It’s not stopping the violence. And it’s not going to stop the violence until criminals are held accountable and something is done to stem the flow of these guns into our city.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    The future, with being able to produce limitless firearms with widely available 3d printers, suggests your ideas about eliminating the availability of guns are doomed to failure. The only solution will be to end the motivation for people committing gun crime.
    Your right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    The future, with being able to produce limitless firearms with widely available 3d printers, suggests your ideas about eliminating the availability of guns are doomed to failure. The only solution will be to end the motivation for people committing gun crime.
    3D printers capable of making firearms are expensive to buy and maintain. And they are also open to regulation, and possibly easier to track depending on manufacturing regulations. While 3D printing technologies do complicate standard gun control laws, they don't complicate law in general. Therefore I don't think it's a futile effort to control the tool.

    I would love to end the motivation for committing gun crime and I do think that your suggestion here is a better ultimate solution, but it's also much more difficult than regulating the tool - at least, for now. Especially with so many people jawing about cultural relativism and how even destructive cultural ideals need to be respected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Release View Post
    Is the OP in favour of gun control to help combat this problem?
    Chicago already has some of the thoughest gun laws in the country. Guns are only a symptom of the problem.

    Chicago has corruption all up and down its justice system and government. Police morale is low. They don't enforce the law, partly because the judiciary doesn't support the police. Those who DO get caught for breaking gun laws (illegally carrying a firearm) never serve their full sentence and are back on the streets.

    It is much much deeper than just banning guns. Enforce the laws we have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halefire94 View Post
    Chicago already has some of the thoughest gun laws in the country. Guns are only a symptom of the problem.

    Chicago has corruption all up and down its justice system and government. Police morale is low. They don't enforce the law, partly because the judiciary doesn't support the police. Those who DO get caught for breaking gun laws (illegally carrying a firearm) never serve their full sentence and are back on the streets.

    It is much much deeper than just banning guns. Enforce the laws we have now.
    I agree, honestly I don't have some huge agenda to having America ban guns, I don't care its your country and your right to do what you want with a law like that.

    The reasons you stated all seem valid but to me poverty, lack of opportunity and awful education also seem like large causal factors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Drug trade and gang warfare with a steady and unrestricted flow of firearms from adjacent states says hai.
    Two of those we could regulate. The Drug War is a failure. It would be nice to do some type of gun control/registration. Of course some do not would rather make laws that we actually have implied for the past 20-30 years with little or no effect.
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