[Movie] Star Wars: Rogue One

[Shadowferal]

First person that I've seen to give Hayden a pass. I liked III but loathed Hayden. I might have to rewatch it...

omg don't.
Hayden had to have been among the worst choices for Anakin. Dude just couldn't act at all. And the shitty script didn't help. A good actor can sometimes help a script but there was neither to be had.

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Peter Cushing on playing Grand Moff Tarkin on carpet slippers in STAR WARS - EPISODE IV: A NEW HOPE.

Eyes On Cinema
Jan 2, 2016



Peter Cushing talks about playing Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin on carpet slippers in 'Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope.'

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So yeah saw it yesterday, having only seen the first trailer months ago I basically went in blind.

It was okay, but only because of the amount of references and the presence of established characters, which in itself is pretty sad.
Didn't give a single fuck about any of the characters, they had 0 development, and they made mah boy Saw go out like a true plot-device-only character would, too bad.
The only thing that made the final battle interesting to me is that Scarif was a beautiful beach planet, so atleast the environment was nice to look at.

CGI Tarkin was good, and so was Vader. Those two characters just stole the show, which is once again pretty sad.

When I left the theater, everyone seemed so fulfilled for whatever reason. My friend thought this was one of the best SW movies, as did many others.
The reason why was mostly because all the major characters died. That and Vader.

Really? the movie is good because it killed of all the characters which had 0 story development, and didn't necesarily even have to die?
I guess this is the standard nowadays.

7/10. Because Vader, CGI Tarkin and Easter Eggs. Basically everything SW has covered since the 70s anyway.
Other than looking up that Vader scene and watching it 1000 times over, moving on.

TL;DR: Movie was saved for me because of fan-service and nostalgia.

Edit: Krennick is the most boring SW villain ever, period.

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This movie any good? Feel like most reviews are sugar-coating this because it’s called Star Wars...again. Just like Episode 7 which I thought was mediocre story-wise.

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This movie any good? Feel like most reviews are sugar-coating this because it’s called Star Wars...again. Just like Episode 7 which I thought was mediocre story-wise.

Well you did just post this in a 48 page thread discussing the quality of the movie.

[zEmini]

This movie any good? Feel like most reviews are sugar-coating this because it’s called Star Wars...again. Just like Episode 7 which I thought was mediocre story-wise.

Got to suck that Disney cock! Don't want to get blacklisted from all the big parties.

[PACOX]

This movie any good? Feel like most reviews are sugar-coating this because it’s called Star Wars...again. Just like Episode 7 which I thought was mediocre story-wise.

Don't worry about whether you like it "just because it's a star wars movie".

[Bigbazz]

Saw the movie tonight, really liked it. I think I liked it more than Force Awakens but it might have been because I was slightly infatuated with Felicity Jones. To be honest it got off to a slow start and I wasn't following it much, but it really gains a lot of traction and ends on a great climax.

[eschatological]

I just saw this film. I don't understand people's complaints about too many characters and too little plot development. Seemed pretty straightforward to me. How much plot development do you want for one-off characters in a side story? How much character development do you expect in a standalone movie?

How much do you know about Vader before he steps on screen? Or Leia, other than she's some holo on a screen? What do we know about C3PO or R2D2, or even Han or Chewie? About all you find out about Han in episode IV is that he owes money to Jabba, he's a smuggler of sorts, and he's a rogue with a heart of gold. You know even less about Chewie.

Not once was I confused in this movie. Nor did I doubt anyone's plot motivations. The fracturing of the Rebellion between Saw and the Temple Guardians and the Alliance made sense and was well done, and gave a depth to the Rebellion we've never seen.

The scene on Mustafar was extraneous in terms of its location and the tank part, but I think the scene between Vader and Krikken or whatever his name is was good. It laid him bare as an egomaniac who simply wanted credit, which is why he was willing to take the risk with Galen Orso to begin with, a scientist who he knew didn't want to build the Death Star.

This was a great movie, and I hope it's what we can expect from future episodes of the mainline series. I honestly think people are too much into a fandom, and the culture of being able to Google everything, when they complain about not knowing every single thing of a character. At the same time, it's a testament to people's shallow attention span when they can only concentrate on one or two characters at a time. They want to be forcefed everything about a character, but they only want one or two because they can't handle more? Seems bizarre to me. Film as a whole is a very limited medium in terms of scope, and the only films which have such an intense focus on smaller casts and deep development are arthouse films that take place entirely in a bedroom between two lovers.

Maybe it's because of the rise of television as a great artistic medium (instead of just basic schlock), where you can delve into a character over seasons. If you want character development, I definitely recommend television.

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If you want character development, I definitely recommend television.

This is what it has come to.

[eschatological]

This is what it has come to.

I should amend that to say in-depth character development. Jyn Orso and Cassian Andal (sp?) were definitely developed in this movie.

[thewallofsleep]

I should amend that to say in-depth character development. Jyn Orso and Cassian Andal (sp?) were definitely developed in this movie.

If you say so. I enjoyed the movie, but if you aren't already a fan of Star Wars you won't know why we should care about these characters or what all the little moments were all about that made people cheer, clap or gasp. Definitely not a good movie for the uninitiated.

[everydaygamer]

I really enjoyed this movie but what ever happened to simple names like Luke, Han and Lando. I can't even remember most of the names in this movie like can anyone remember the name of Donnie Yen's Character?

[Bigbazz]

I really enjoyed this movie but what ever happened to simple names like Luke, Han and Lando. I can't even remember most of the names in this movie like can anyone remember the name of Donnie Yen's Character?

I noticed this. I remember "chinese man from all those kung fu movies", "discount antonio banderas", "that imperial robot".. And while leaving the Cinema I was asking "was it Jen or Jin or?"... But with all that said I rarely follow names that well, I only know the names from the original movies because I've seen them a million times.

The beginning of the movie was a bit of a mess though, a lot of stuff happening with little/no context... But the middle + end was so good I came out of the Cinema quite hyped. I do wonder if the movie would be better watching it a second time, since you have more context and grounding to follow the beginning more intentively.

[eschatological]

The whole beginning of the movie is about the fractured nature of the Rebellion, and how there's all these different "rebellious" factions doing what they're doing to get shit done. I thought it was a great premise for exploring the nature of the Rebellion, who aren't a bunch of white hats like we thought.

There's the Council, which is staid and like the political hierarchy of the old Republic.

There's the Rebellion Intelligence, which is Cassian Andal (Diego Luna), who will do heinous shit to further the Rebellion. These guys make up the bulk of the Rogue One fighters.

There's Saw Guerrerra's faction, which is extremist to the point of being reckless, not caring about collateral, civilian deaths in Jedha, etc.

There's the Temple Guardians (the Asian dudes) who are the most mystical and Jedi-esque, though the one we see has a very grounded, grizzled bodyguard.

And then there's Galen Orso, and peripherally, his daughter, who are entangled in the Empire, and trying to bring it down from inside.

About the only tenuous relationship there is why Saw is in any way friends with Galen. My assumption is that Galen's wife Lira, who dresses like a traditional rebel, is part of the early Rebellion, and became Galen's conscience while he was a scientist for the Empire.

[Elim Garak]

Who needs names?

White chic, white dude, black droid, Asian blind guy, Asian big guy, big black guy in heavy armor, the bad guy from Casino Royale, the important guy in whitish uniform with black stormtroopers, imperial pilot guy

The rest are known from other movies.

[Lazerbrain]

she makes sense.

[Wyrt]

Why the fuck was Leia's ship inside the big rebel ship? Wasn't she being sent from Alderaan to go find Obi-wan, then all of a sudden she's inside the Calamari ship in a space battle because what? What?

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Why the fuck was Leia's ship inside the big rebel ship? Wasn't she being sent from Alderaan to go find Obi-wan, then all of a sudden she's inside the Calamari ship in a space battle because what? What?

Because they needed someway to tie Rogue One directly to the beginning of A New Hope, thats literally the only reason.

Its one of my only complaints with the film, they could have easily have had that ship escape without Leia onboard, then they rendevous with Leias ship, hand the data off to her, Vader catches up to the ship that escapes, interrogates them, they break and say that they handed the codes off to Leia, now Vader is after Leia.

[Wyrt]

Because they needed someway to tie Rogue One directly to the beginning of A New Hope, thats literally the only reason.

They couldn't come up with a way that made sense? Wasn't that like the main point of the movie?