Tracer confirmed first LGBT character

[DeadmanWalking]

Game didn't need this shit at all

My 14 year old gay daughter would disagree with you. Besides, until she goes down on a chick in game instead of kissing a female in a motion comic your opinion has no basis in reality.

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Agreed. Why we need the sexual orientation of characters is beyond me. Would have been a hell of a lot easier and less alienating to just say, "They're video game characters, they don't have sexual relationships."

Hell, someone is going to get offended no matter who they choose. You're either going to have people go "That character doesn't REALLY represent me as an (insert anything here) person!" or you'll have the, "It's pretty offensive that you chose (insert character) because it's clear you only chose them because of the stereotypes of (insert anything here), how dare you?!"


Let the community write its own fan fiction. If people choose to associate themselves with a character based on one of those fan theories, let them. The internet loves to hook up Mercy with both Pharah and Soldier: 76. Is there any sense at all in not just letting them be with that? "Sorry half of you, but the imaginary backstory you created is wrong, our imaginary backstory is the only right one!" How stupid.

Translation, "As long as they are offending people I disagree with and I do not identify as then I'm okay with that."

[Vanyali]

Agreed. Why we need the sexual orientation of characters is beyond me. Would have been a hell of a lot easier and less alienating to just say, "They're video game characters, they don't have sexual relationships."

Hell, someone is going to get offended no matter who they choose. You're either going to have people go "That character doesn't REALLY represent me as an (insert anything here) person!" or you'll have the, "It's pretty offensive that you chose (insert character) because it's clear you only chose them because of the stereotypes of (insert anything here), how dare you?!"


Let the community write its own fan fiction. If people choose to associate themselves with a character based on one of those fan theories, let them. The internet loves to hook up Mercy with both Pharah and Soldier: 76. Is there any sense at all in not just letting them be with that? "Sorry half of you, but the imaginary backstory you created is wrong, our imaginary backstory is the only right one!" How stupid.

Your managed with a single post to say "all stories are stupid because someone could make up another alternative".

It's rare that one post comes up with a point entirely so stupid, but you managed it.

People have been writing fanfic / shipfic for centuries about characters. They should never have any bearing on what the creator of a story or character wants to do, because they usually have no basis in anything but "OMG THEY SO HOT TOGETHER" rather than the actual, you know, story they want to tell.

[Jessicka]

This is of course from a male perspective, a perspective that likes lesbian porn, or two girls 1 guy porn. But from the perspective of a homophobic female is the opposite, to them gay males are more acceptable in society than female gays. They look at gay men as harmless 'shopping buddies' who have great fashion sense, and gay females being too aggressive in an icky way. Gay males won't try to turn a straight man gay for the most part, usually only if the gaydar was wrong. Gay females don't mind taking a shot at any female.

so this perspective of 'gay females are more acceptable in society' is only because your perspective is from a male's perspective.

Only in fiction. Definitely not in real life.

[ChaosWolf]

This is of course from a male perspective, a perspective that likes lesbian porn, or two girls 1 guy porn. But from the perspective of a homophobic female is the opposite, to them gay males are more acceptable in society than female gays. They look at gay men as harmless 'shopping buddies' who have great fashion sense, and gay females being too aggressive in an icky way. Gay males won't try to turn a straight man gay for the most part, usually only if the gaydar was wrong. Gay females don't mind taking a shot at any female.

so this perspective of 'gay females are more acceptable in society' is only because your perspective is from a male's perspective.

My remarks are irrelevant to my personal perspective (which you, I note, instantly presume to be heterosexual and male).

Also, your assumptions that gay females are more aggressive and predatory than gay males, who are "harmless shopping buddies"... is a false blanket assumption... that is a thing that can vary wildly by individual, not a thing of collective decision.

Also also, the idea that gay males are more "acceptable" to females for the same/similar reasons that females are acceptable to males... is equally wrong.

As I said before, fetishization is not acceptance.

[ramjb]

My remarks are irrelevant to my personal perspective (which you, I note, instantly presume to be heterosexual and male).

Also, your assumptions that gay females are more aggressive and predatory than gay males, who are "harmless shopping buddies"... is a false blanket assumption... that is a thing that can vary wildly by individual, not a thing of collective decision.

Also also, the idea that gay males are more "acceptable" to females for the same/similar reasons that females are acceptable to males... is equally wrong.

As I said before, fetishization is not acceptance.

I don't like gay males because I'm afraid they will rape me.

[Wycked]

Hard to not appreciate a woman that enjoys going down on other women...

[ChaosWolf]

I don't like gay males because I'm afraid they will rape me.

This is so staggeringly idiotic and blindly ignorant to how real life works that it must be a troll post.

[Mormolyce]

I don't like gay males because I'm afraid they will rape me.

Why, how pretty are you?

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People have been writing fanfic / shipfic for centuries about characters.

Well, since Star Trek.

[Nero Stormchester]

My 14 year old gay daughter would disagree with you. Besides, until she goes down on a chick in game instead of kissing a female in a motion comic your opinion has no basis in reality.

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Translation, "As long as they are offending people I disagree with and I do not identify as then I'm okay with that."

Well may be your daughter grew up in a different environment , she wouldn't need homosexual role models

[Pendulous]

Well may be your daughter grew up in a different environment , she wouldn't need homosexual role models

Suicides from alternate sexualities is high due to social issues and many other things (don't get me started on "gay therapy". Fuck those people), especially at younger ages. Having those famous people, even fictional ones, is a positive influence on them and can help with anything from depression or just motivating them to pursue a path.

There's literally no negatives about this, yet people complain. It baffles me.

[ChaosWolf]

Suicides from alternate sexualities is high due to social issues and many other things (don't get me started on "gay therapy". Fuck those people), especially at younger ages. Having those famous people, even fictional ones, is a positive influence on them and can help with anything from depression or just motivating them to pursue a path.

There's literally no negatives about this, yet people complain. It baffles me.

This is unfortunately very true - a study from a few years back found that, among LGBT teens between 13 and 19, nearly 90% of them reported contemplating suicide at least once, with nearly half of that "contemplation" group who were transgender saying they actually attempted the act.
What's more, 25% of homeless youth between 12 and 21 are part of the LGBT spectrum, and are homeless due to being rejected and cast out of their own homes by cruel and uncaring family upon coming out as LGBT.

[Vasaru]

People care too much about this thing. On both sides.

[Zenny]

Funny how you muster strength to have a go at me only when surrounded by your backdoor teamplayers and while I can't talk back.

But should a wolf care for mumblings of a sheep?

I would have discussed this with you but it looks like you are banned again. I guess it's better this way though, your "discussions" leave a lot to be desired.

[Deleted]

Meh and I thought they would offical announce the Russian lady as the first LGBT char

[Traveler Voltin]

The russian lady will not be lesbian.

[Kujako]

The russian lady will not be lesbian.

Naw, "she's" transgender!

[Tommi]

Naw, "she's" transgender!

"She" identifies as a Mil Mi-25 'Hind D'....

[Leih]

"She" identifies as a Mil Mi-25 'Hind D'....

So original. No one's ever made this joke before -_-

[Adam Jensen]

I just hope that it's not one of the super obvious gay characters like Lucio or Zarya, because that would just be too expected. I hope they make Junkrat or Genji or something gay.

Other than that who cares. Gay people exist.

I just want it to be Genji. Imagine the rage.

Truthfully, don't really care. Tracer's gay? That's nice.

[Kontinuum]

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